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A general video games Kickstarter thread

Discussion in 'PC/Console Game Discussion' started by Bahimiron, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. Raife Magister Mundi Elyscape

  2. Adree Sangry Malcontent

    Using the term "tweedpunk" makes me want to take funds away not give them.
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  3. Charles Despondent Fancybear

    Location:
    Toronto, ON
    Yeah. It's lame but I think they are poking fun at steampunk as much as anything.
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  4. Jam Armchair Designer

    Location:
    London (JM@QT3)
    And being English.
  5. Jam Armchair Designer

    Location:
    London (JM@QT3)
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  6. Hanzii Magister Mundi Elyscape

    That's mean.

    Thanks. I didn't read Brians thread.

    Fuck it, I promised the wife not to back anymore Kickstarters... but motherfucking Elite. My first avatar here was the Elite-logo. I still remember the christmas where I got that game and played it all through the night...

    Well, after reading I'm definitely backing, but it won't be expensive, since none of the promises does anything for me. Planet names, alphas, forums - bleh! The game and my name will do fine, thanks.
  7. Jam Armchair Designer

    Location:
    London (JM@QT3)
    Yeah, they'll have to add some serious stretch goals and swag to the higher tiers for me to consider breaking £20. Even the £50 for beta access is too steep on its own (and I say this as someone who's backed a ton of kickstarters with less promise than this one).
  8. Hanzii Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Actually it's a very bad Kickstarter... and I say that even though I love Elite and have respect for Braben and Frontier (their newer games might not be the greatest, but they're very competent and a sure proof that they can deliver on a promise - Kinectimals and Disneyland Adventures are among the best for Kinect).

    There's no video, no interview, no gameplay or graphics from the earlier games, no real details of gameplay and no real details on how the multiplayer will work. If this is true:
    Why is there no concept art or videos? No pictures of people working on models of spaceships. Anything?!

    As it stands, it only speaks to people like me with fond memories of the original - and I'm just looking at the £20 level.

    It's gonna be a long way to the $2 million plus he wants.
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  9. Jam Armchair Designer

    Location:
    London (JM@QT3)
    It's done £160k already. It'll piss $2million.

    I understand the desire for promo stuff but basically the pitch is "It's an updated modern multiplayer version of Elite". Concept art means bugger-all to me.
  10. candide Armchair Designer

  11. Brian Rubin Armchair Designer

    Yeah, if it's even simply as good as Jumpgate, it'll be awesome, but there's no way to even come close to discerning that. As much of a cheerleader as I am for space games, I can't fully cheer for this one yet.
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  12. Juste Worked The System

    Location:
    Oslo, Norway
    I'm in for the game and my name as well. Elite is still my all time favourite game and like Hanzii mentioned, their last games have been very competently put together.
  13. Brian Rubin Armchair Designer

  14. Ben Sones Elitist Negative Nancy

    Location:
    Lordran
  15. Quitch Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Location:
    UK
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  16. Raife Magister Mundi Elyscape

    He's already 1/5th of the way to his moon money goal of 1,250,000 L's.
  17. Adree Sangry Malcontent

    Nerds will just give money away for even the faintest promises.
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  18. OrfBC Hard Cider Gal

    Location:
    California
    Because they don't have dates to spend it on.

    [IMG]
  19. Eduardo X Worked The System

    What is a "nerd?"
  20. Jam Armchair Designer

    Location:
    London (JM@QT3)
    I wish my dates only cost me £20 :(
  21. Elyscape Hatoful Pigeon

    Location:
    San Jose, CA
    [IMG]
  22. lordkosc This Is SEWIOUS

    Location:
    Northampton , PA.
    ask for hourly rates!

    ;)
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  23. Jam Armchair Designer

    Location:
    London (JM@QT3)
    In London?!
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  24. Calistas Elitist Negative Nancy

    Move to Thailand?
  25. UnSub Armchair Designer

    If they work like Kickstarter, the rewards go up as you spend more, but you can easily end up at the end of the process with nothing but empty promises and a feeling of disappointment.
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  26. Hanzii Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Oh, I'm in at 20 quid allright. I'm just saying that with a bit more marketing, he could have made me spend 3x that - and he could have enticed people that aren't in their 40's too...
  27. Jam Armchair Designer

    Location:
    London (JM@QT3)
    Yeah. I'm curious as to what this'll look like in a month's time - it's a looooong kickstarter - and whether they were just unwilling to make any promises with no knowledge of the scale of funding.
  28. UnSub Armchair Designer

    For those interested (the both of you) I've finished going through the 300-odd successfully Kickstarted video game projects (from 2009 to Oct 31 2012) and looked at how many actually released their titles.

    The key table on that:

    [IMG]

    (All based on my interpretations of what "launched" meant and if I correctly caught them all.)

    Other factoid: to Oct 31 this year Kickstarter has raised US$40.3m, with the top 10 most funded titles responsible for two thirds of that amount.
  29. Rorschach This Is SEWIOUS

    What % of those unreleased games are still on schedule?

    What % of those unreleased games are behind schedule but still updating?

    What % of those unreleased games have closed up shop?

    The three games I backed so far in 2012 (DF Adventure, Klang, Planetary Annihilation) haven't been launched yet but they're not due until 2013.
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  30. Footmunch Hard Cider Gal

    Location:
    UK
  31. Rorschach This Is SEWIOUS

    That tracks with a lot of other projects. You get a big bump at the start when everyone is talking about it. It tapers off over time then another big spike at the end to wrap it up. I think the only thing to be worried about is the lack of pictures, but I guess those are coming.
  32. UnSub Armchair Designer

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  33. sinnick Elitist Negative Nancy

    Location:
    Ontario
    It definitely looks like a pretty engine, but I found the video for Sui Generis a little offputting. I think it's quotes like this:

    "You might take a lot of what you see for granted, but consider that I programmed everything myself. There's no third-party technology. Graphics, physics, audio, user interface, all the backends, I wrote every single line of code. This is actually also a huge advantage, because I'm intimately familiar with every detail. Making changes, adding features, or just trying things out is something we can do very easily."
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  34. lesslucid This Is SEWIOUS

    Honest question, why is that off-putting? I was impressed!
  35. Lizard_King Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    Because the history of one man acts is...mixed.
  36. lesslucid This Is SEWIOUS

    Hmm, true. Mind you, there really are some good things in that mixture...
  37. sinnick Elitist Negative Nancy

    Location:
    Ontario
    Probably my own baggage, but I've known enough programmers in my day who want to spend all their time focused on technical purity over the quality that a user will actually experience. In that video he even admits that many of the amazing systems, such as weather and sky, etc, in their engine are overkill for an isometric RPG. He brings it up to impress us, whereas I view that kind of thing as wasteful hubris. Don't spend time creating a sky that I'm never going to see ... spend that time building better gameplay.

    I don't want to trash him, because what he's created is really impressive, and I love games where I can explore a beautiful world. I also don't want to kibosh the act of pushing the frontier, trying new things, and just innovating, because that's how we move forward. But I really hope that there's someone on the team who can balance out Mr. Evans and push for something actually playable, so that they don't spend all of everyone's Kickstarter money focused on making the dew drops on a blade of grass look right, and wind up with nothing playable at the end.
  38. Brian Rubin Armchair Designer

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  39. JoshV Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Nice article, only thing I disagree with is constant updates. After I've backed a KS, I don't really care unless it's an update that it's passed, or there is something for me to download or something.
  40. Brian Rubin Armchair Designer

    You might not care, but others might, and constant content generation is a key component in good SEO or marketing. ;)
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