An open letter

Discussion in 'Debate and Discussion' started by Angie Gallant, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    Ferndale, MI
    I haven't been buying it for months.
    Antiqua, Riztro, Zekedms and 3 others like this.
  2. Sjofn Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    California
    omg me too!

    Twins! (Triplets?)
    Antiqua, Mirriam, Elyscape and 2 others like this.
  3. Nebty Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario
    You know, I really hope that it does turn out to be a good game. Tomb Raider is one of the few game series with a female protagonist. And I was excited when SE said that this was the game where Lara actually gets human proportions. Then again, I should've expected some sort of disaster. Just look at Other M.
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  4. kerzain Beardy Magnificence

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    Job 3:26
    HUEHUEHUEHUE
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  5. extarbags Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    Has anyone else not played it yet? I've been a little busy tonight so I haven't had a ton of time to not play it, but from what I haven't seen so far it hasn't really got its hooks into me yet.
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  6. Viz This Is SEWIOUS

    It's riveting. I think I've never had so much fun not buying and not playing a game.
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  7. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    Ferndale, MI
    GOTY
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  8. Afti Cuts Down The River, Not Across The Road

    I'm not buying it for PC, 360, and PS3.
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  9. sinnick Elitist Negative Nancy

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    Ontario
    [IMG]
  10. Shake Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Location:
    Portland
    Now you're just some Lara than I used to know?


    fuck gotye but this was too easy
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  11. OZ 4.0 Despondent Fancybear

    Location:
    NJ
    Sadly, I can't. I went to Best Buy to not buy it, but it wasn't there. They don't sell PC games anymore, for buying or not buying. How am I going to not buy it?

    This sucks.
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  12. kerzain Beardy Magnificence

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    Job 3:26
    I gathered up a few of my favorites screenshots. These are pretty good at showing some of the stuff I won't be doing in the game.

    Here's a pic of that one time I wasn't lost and confused someplace outside a tomb:
    lc.jpg

    Here's when I wasn't playing nurse for this guy, whoever he is. I'm not even wondering if he lives:
    lc2.jpg

    I'm totally not falling prone here, or flailing around waiting to get beaten to death:
    lc3.jpg

    And this one is my favorite, obviously one of the most thrilling parts of this game I'll never experience. Can you see the grit? Can you? There's grit everywhere!
    lc4.jpg
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  13. OZ 4.0 Despondent Fancybear

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    NJ
    All I see is rain. I don't remember the last game I didn't play that had that much rain in it. That t-shirt's gonna get wet.
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  14. kerzain Beardy Magnificence

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    I have no idea if those last two screenshots are chronological, but it almost looks like Lara Croft defeats lucks out and escapes her attacker by falling through the floor and into a cave. I don't think they're directly chronological though, since Lara's wearing less clothing in the latter pic.

    Maybe her attacker tried to grab at her at the last moment before she took her plunge and only ended up with a handfull of grey shirt for his effort.
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  15. OZ 4.0 Despondent Fancybear

    Location:
    NJ
    You know, Kerzain, I think you're just the guy to do a Let's Not Play for this game. Whaddya say?
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  16. Afti Cuts Down The River, Not Across The Road

    I was actually thinking that I wasn't going to stream it live, as I don't play it. Assuming that there's no interest, of course!
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  17. Hanzii Magister Mundi Elyscape

    I'm way ahead of you. I didn't preorder it MONTHS AGO!
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  18. Viz This Is SEWIOUS

    I wouldn't be all over that!
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  19. shift6 Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Man, another one for my not-playing backlog. This is getting insane! I guess I'll put it first in line so I can not-play at the same time as all the kool kids.
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  20. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    Ferndale, MI
    If you haven't started not playing it than you're already WAY behind. I've got some mad cheevos for my not playing achievements already.

    You might as well not even start not playing it at this point, you'll never catch up to the rest of us.
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  21. OZ 4.0 Despondent Fancybear

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    NJ
    Indeed. If you're not already not playing, you'll never be able to not buy and play the DLC during the Steam winter sale.
  22. MrMolecule Armchair Designer

    Can somebody not gift this to me? I don't have enough cash at the moment to justify not spending money on it.
  23. Carnifex Hard Cider Gal

    I would not give likes to someone who did a "Let's Not Play" of this game so that I couldn't pretend I wasn't interested in not playing it. A little.
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  24. Aeon221 Despondent Fancybear

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    G:\HAW HAW HAW
    You people need to go to jail for beating this joke to death.
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  26. Hanacker Armchair Designer

    I don't know how I'll fit it in with Duke Nukem Forever, Grimoire, and the Postal series occupying so many spots on the list already. Maybe I need to skip not playing it.
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  27. I'm not playing a beta of it right now, suckas! Too bad about the Disclosure Agreement.
  28. shift6 Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Not gaming related, but topical and deserves a "fuck yeah!" anyway.

    This Is What A Victoria's Secret Sabotage Looks Like
    http://www.businessinsider.com/is-this-what-victorias-secret-sabotage-looks-like-2012-12

    Monday at noon, journalists and Victoria's Secret social media fans were told that the lingerie line was promoting a new campaign: the "consent revolution" that "promotes consent to fight rape in new panties."

    A new website featuring women with various body types (as opposed to the highly photoshopped norm) called Pink Loves Consent explained how although previous thongs read "No Peeking" and "Sure Thing," new ones would say "No Means No" and "Ask First."

    After doing some digging, Jezebel's Katie Baker found out that the new campaign to increase rape culture awareness was, unsurprisingly, a hoax. Although the woman posing as Molly Reagan, "Media Relations with Victoria's Secret's new PINK loves CONSENT line" assured baker that this was legit, Victoria's Secret owner Limited Brands said that it was not, in fact, an official campaign.

    "My only complaint is that you can't actually buy anything off the site, because now I kind of want some underwear that says "respect" on the crotch," Baker wrote.
  29. bloo Armchair Designer

    Reading these two words next to each other makes me nauseous.
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  30. Zekedms Elitist Negative Nancy

    It should. That's the point.
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  31. bloo Armchair Designer

    I don't think it's an effective way.
  32. Zekedms Elitist Negative Nancy

    Would you prefer something gentler? Would you prefer "The normalization of sexual violence through media"? Would you prefer "We don't talk about touching people's nonos in a way they don't want?" How about "Those girls who said Rihanna should shut up and Chris Brown can beat them any time he wants"?

    We use the term "rape culture" because that's what it is, a cultural norm that allows for sexual violence and rape and even encourages it at times. It should bother you, it's a bothersome thing that's hard to hear and hard to process, but to rename it because it makes people uncomfortable is a disservice to its victims.

    Just like shell shock became battle fatigue and that became operational exhaustion and finally post-traumatic stress disorder, sometimes you lose the necessary impact when you soften the term.
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  33. bloo Armchair Designer

    You're right! I never got the point in the 4 decades I've existed without hearing that particular phrase (and I went to a flaming liberal, heavily feminist college - maybe I was just lucky).

    There's a point where preaching at the target drives the choir away.
  34. Mark M Elitist Negative Nancy

    Fortunately, "rape culture" isn't that point for anyone but you.
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  35. jeffd Armchair Designer

    Location:
    Oakhurst, NJ
    Good. Seeya later.
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  36. MrMolecule Armchair Designer

    Nonsense. It just sets them off into an MRA-blessed fugue.
  37. bloo Armchair Designer

    Wow. I admit to being disgusted by a phrase I've never encountered before and find excessive and fall out of lockstep so much some of you think I should be relegated to the MRA ghetto or I'm part of the problem.

    Nice.
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  38. AaronSofaer Magister Mundi Elyscape

    It's less "admit" and more "declare and assert". It's fine if you don't like the term; if you want your opinion to actually be considered, try responding to peoples' substantive criticisms of your position with substance instead of whining.
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  39. bloo Armchair Designer

    The substantive criticism has been "Good." and ZekeDMS saying that softening it would weaken it. I thought I was clear that I think it's still too strong, though I don't have an alternative phrase to hand. Conceptually, there is a phrase that is a step too far - we're just differing if "Rape Culture" is it.

    And if we avoid whining bits, what forum will survive?
  40. AaronSofaer Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Right, so Zeke did, in fact, provide substantive criticism, which you didn't bother actually engaging (shit, I can't even tell what the first half of your post in reply to him means) and we apparently agree that you're whining.

    Maybe if you want to go dig up evidence one way or the other? Since you obviously hold an opinion which other people disagree with, and care enough to post about it? I've neither seen studies nor experienced anecdotes which align with your claims.
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