Lynch actually posted about it, but I'd been thinking it myself for a while now. Jason doesn't even post threads to both forums anymore. He just posts them here. I don't think Lum's separation of sub-forums is the difference. I just think there are a few factors: 1. Many of the people banned at qt3 were good posters on politics and religion 2. Lum actually bothers to moderate the politics forums...even Santorum. 3. Qt3 allows certain posters to shit up the politics threads 4. The discourse here is more civil, overall, with a better signal/noise. Any others? Oh, and I posted this in SS because I have no idea where this thread might go, and it's not really a debate thread. Dunno.