Avengers Assemble.

CHEESE AND CRACKERS!

Cheese and crackers, nothing, it's the right time of year for some...

Yo, I finally watched this. Thanks Rifftrax. "Hulk not tell difference between Shitari and generic Halo enemies!" indeed.

So..............

I kind of like the Apokolips War from Earth 2 a little bit better, but not bad at all, given the scope limitations the movie had to deal with.

You couldn't be bothered to watch the year's biggest movie without Rifftrax?

I know that this sort of goes without saying, but there's something really wrong with you.

You expect him to take something that's not a TV show seriously?

Earth 2?

Earth Fucking 2?

DC Comics' equivalent of "professional" fan-fiction?

You bite the curb, thou globby bottle of cheap stinking chip-oil. I did not know it was possible to have negative taste. Liking Earth 2 is worse than liking nothing at all. You are worse than the guy who hates everything. You are comics Hitler. COMICS HITLER.

Earth 2 was a great show, I mean it had Tim Curry on it.

I just rewatched that show, actually. It does not hold up. There is a tiny sprinkle of science fiction on top of a steaming pile of mystical magic bullshit. I mean, one episode has a guy making an instantaneous transmission over the many light years between Earth 2 and Earth, but it's okay because it was on the dream plane.

But even more than Tim Curry, it had a young Terry O'Quinn. So that was fun.

Yeah, some of those 90s sci-fi shows hold up much better than others.

I'm going to bet a shiny nickel that that's not the Earth 2 Nute meant.

Nor the one I meant. No - Nute got it right. For the story where massive extra-dimensional invaders, I like the Apokolips War better, but I can't remember whether it was only called that in Earth-2 (where we'll just have to disagree - I like me some James Robinson) or if that was also carried into the main continuity. Obviously, though, something on that scope is would have been tricky for Marvel and they got as close as they could.

As for the delay on the movie....feh. Something's got to give, and it turns out that that's movies, at least until Matt Fowler decides that he wants to pay me a full time salary to work for his new site with the terrible name, which I'm not sure why he'd want to do that anyway. I might have seen this when it first dropped if I hadn't known for an absolute fact that there would be a Rifftrax.

I believe the correct comics terminology is "the opposite of Batman."

Set off by a post on Facebook about Wonder Woman's costume, I ended up scouring some past threads on QT3 trying to find a mockup someone did of a better costume than what ended up on that failed TV pilot.

That lead to me unearthing this archaeological gem:

Let's hope Wholly had no interest in Avengers!

Heh, to be fair, I was worried that Whedon couldn't pull off an action movie either. I thought the action in Serenity was awful, it felt like he re-used his stunt crew from his TV series, and they were never very good.

But I was glad I was wrong, and that Whedon could pull off an action movie!

I'm giving you a like for owning that comment, JoshV, but the action in Serenity was awesome and you are so wrong you're ugly.

Would it be better if I quantified it as any scene that involved physical fighting? Whedon's shows & Serenity have this really low budget stunt direction, the fighting always looks terrible.

The other bits really weren't bad, his space stuff has always been fine.

THE PHYSICAL FIGHTING WAS AWESOME. I loved the duel between Mal and the Operative at the end. That was one of the most painfully brutal fights I've ever watched, and I thought the choreography was fantastic.

Then we are at an impasse sir. Pistols at dawn?

I loved the Mal/Operative fight, and even liked River's dance of Reaver death. We're not supposed to think of that as believable for a human to do, but River is superhuman, so you just roll with it.

"No power in the 'verse can stop me."

I'm talking terrible haymaker punches thrown by the bad guys, straight outta a western from yesteryear, and odd physics, and awful stuntmen reactions to getting hit. Its even worse when you consider that River isn't supposed to have super strength.

No, super agility, telepathy (prediction of her opponents), superhuman reflexes and reaction times. That's why her fights look almost dance-like.

The fights still break the rules of physics. Look here:


This fight scene is terrible, it has her kick a guy so hard in the legs that he somehow spins upward, and that bit where she is hitting the asian guy, and it takes too long, and he has to just sort of constantly move his head back and forth as his hit reaction. And later she punches a guy in the lower abdomen, and his legs go flying backwards.

And yet that clip just made me want to watch Serenity again :)

You are picking the wrong fights man. That scene is pure awesome.

This is why you are wrong.

Christ, if we're going to complain about fights in Serenity let's at least complain about the opening fight where the guy does a handstand.

Look at like the first 30 seconds into that video, and the very first punch thrown by the bad guy, it's this silly stupid swing/punch thing by the stunt guy, and proves my point.

Have you never watched a kung-fu movie in your entire life?

There are two kinds of people in the world:

1: Browncoats.
2: People who are wrong.

That was a shitty fight scene. Looked like something straight out of the 80's.

That's why it's awesome.

I liked the behind the scenes vid. She's way more athletic and skilled than I expected. It's like watching some of the Kill Bill or Matrix stuff. Lots and lots of hard work going into trying to make the scenes realistic.

That word, it does not mean what you seem to think it means.

I'll bite given that I'm talking about The Matrix, Kill Bill and Serenity.

Well, a) The Serenity fight scene doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same paragraph, post, thread, or even the same forum as the ones in Matrix and Kill Bill, and b) if the word you're looking for is "plausible" then no, Serenity fails at that too. The fight scenes in Kill Bill and the Matrix were extremely over the top but they used that to project a sense of power and violence, a sense that everything had an impact. Something you don't get when you're content with filming a stuntman throwing a lazy haymaker at you.

Holy shit. I didn't know that Robert Downey Jr got paid $35 million for Iron Man 3 and $50 million for The Avengers while some of his cast mates got about $200,000. This article goes into detail how stingy Marvel, not Disney, is with the contracts with the actors.

Marvel just realizes that no one cared when WB replaced Vincent Chase with Jake Gyllenhaal in Aquaman 2 and it was still a box office success.

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