SRSLY I am the Emperor of Scandinavia. I knew they were coming, after they ate all of Russia. The HRE ate Poland, so I made an alliance with them. They attacked me, I called in my other buddy Emperor, and it was on. Here's the annoying part. Hordes don't take attrition effects like everyone else. So this death stack of 124.1k just wanders from province to province assaulting holdings and knocking them down. In the meantime, 2 35k stacks of HRE folks follow around behind them de-assaulting the holdings. Me? I'm in a boat with my 40k troops because troops don't take attrition on boats. WTF. Eventually the sheer mass of the HRE and Horde armies makes them collapse in on each other, and then my dudes jump off the boat and join the battle. I wish there was a better way to balance the horde rather than just giving them no-attrition troops. Free troops from off the map, ok, but SRSLY. edit: Aztecs haven't shown up yet. If they don't, I'm going to play a bit then go and start a new game in ~1220 or so.