Gay mariage, or "how to make Sugar realize her compatriots are biggoted assh*les"

Discussion in 'The Sanctum Santorum' started by Sugar-Junkie, Jan 25, 2013.

  1. Rasputin Jim Armchair Designer

    Man, she even did a mic drop at the end (as best as she could).

    EDIT: Curse you, Lum!
  2. Lizzy Despondent Fancybear

    The racism in Europe is mostly rooted in xenophobia, so very much directed towards muslims and other people of arabian descent. Though it's quite unfair to say "Europe" because even though there is a greater trend of this sort of racism, it's hardly the same in every country. In the Netherlands we have this politician, Geert Wilders. Let me leave it at that he's a fucking moron and I hate him (don't get my radical left, democratic social ass started on him). But I'll give you one of the most extreme examples. In Greece, the economically challenged child of Europe, there is now the party of the Golden Dawn, a very blatant neonazi party with a disconscerting amount of support:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(Greece)
    This is very troubling for everyone who isn't a white male in Greece. Xenophobia, homophobia and antisemitism (though the last one is denied by the party itself) are rampant.
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  3. Anders Hallin Despondent Fancybear

    Location:
    Stockholm
    The idea that racism isn't as bad in Europe is common and incorrect. Europe is, of course, extremely diverse. So you'll get pogroms against Roma in Hungary, and more clean deportations of Roma from France, mostly stunned amazement at the existence of black people in some parts of East Europe, Swedes tearing their hair about integration and some cities getting large communities of refugees and sometimes mass murderers targeting immigrant-looking people, and in general lots of different countries having various levels of hysterical reactions to different groups at different times. The groups that believe that we have all been weakened by cultural marxism and is turning Europe into Eurabia are certainly not limited to the US.
    Europe as a whole never went through a civil rights struggle with an easily identifiable group such as the African American struggle in the US, and the consequences of that is that the struggles of various immigrant groups and ethnicities is very much on the low-down. What most Europeans have seen culturally that is critical of racism are American movies from the civil rights era onwards, because in the US there is more room for that kind of cultural expression, meaning most Europeans haven't seen much of "racism as a problem" in relation to their own countries and communities, leading to selective blindness (this is of course changing with time, more in some countries than others).
    On an every-day level, I think most Americans would get shocked at a lot of essentialism based on ethnicity and racist language that gets used in continental Europe and how oblivious a whole lot of people can be to those issues.
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  4. Sugar-Junkie Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    France
    It's done. It's been voted! 249 against 97 ! We wooooon !

    *runs around naked, trowing confetti*
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  5. Anders Hallin Despondent Fancybear

    Location:
    Stockholm
    See, moral decadence already spreading, the cranky old men were riiiiight!!!!
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  6. Lum Fatbird

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  7. Alligator Despondent Fancygator

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  8. Sugar-Junkie Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    France
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  9. Alligator Despondent Fancygator

    Never read the comments!
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  10. Randissimo Hatoful Pigeon

    Read the first one, had severely mixed and erratic emotions. Tending towards violence.
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  11. Ha, that was the baker who made my wedding cake last summer. My wife found them on Yelp or somesuch, they were considerably cheaper and had a much lower delivery charge ($30!) than anyone else. It is very much a small family shop being out of a dingy strip mall in a meth-y suburb of Portland. I don't remember how we knew it, but we knew they were religious -a bible quote in their advertising maybe. They seemed nice enough, they didn't give us any religous guff and the cake was good (red velvet...mmmm) but then we were a "traditional" couple.
    Bad bad Sweet Cakes.
  12. Bahimiron Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    Y'know, I'm of two minds when it comes to a church refusing to allow their area to be used for gay marriages, I think it's shitty and I hate them for it, but hell, it's their building so at the very least I can understand how they might come to the decision not to allow people to do certain things in it, even if I disagree. But a cake? The guy doesn't have to watch the homos rub it on one another's anuses or whatever it is he imagines they're going to do with it. He doesn't have to attend, he doesn't have to participate. Hell, unless you decide to tell him for some reason, he doesn't even have to know! Would he refuse to make a cupcake for two gay guys to enjoy on a walk through a gay park? They're just people eating some stupid food! Get the fuck over yourself, bakerman! You are not an important cog in the master plan and your refusing to serve someone a goddam cake based on the bible makes you look like a goddam idiot.
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  13. Alligator Despondent Fancygator

    That's pretty much how I feel about it. If a church wants to refuse to perform a ceremony, that's their prerogative (and they do for smaller reasons anyway; I almost didn't get married simply because I wasn't a member of any church). But it's not like the bible says, "Thou shalt not bake cakes for gay weddings."
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    I'd say the Vans shirt, pre-stressed Carhart hat, double earrings and soul patch do a pretty good job of making him look like an idiot. But, good luck selling wedding cakes in super liberal Portland bible man. I'm sure there will be Chik-fil-a style backlash backlash (maybe Sarah P will buy a cake!) for awhile, but he's boned himself long term.
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  15. MatthewF Elitist Negative Nancy

    Amen. It's Portland, moron.
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  16. Shake Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Location:
    Portland
    Gresham? Vancover?

    I wanna know where the good meth cake is.
  17. Gresham. The trip to Gresham to taste cake and put in our order was worth the savings, at the time. Being known as "the homophobic Wedding Cakery" is not going to go well for them. We wouldn't have used them regardless of how cheap they were for instance.
    The cake is good though, if that's all you are interested in. :-p
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  18. Dan Lawrence Sangry Grognard

    Location:
    Hall of Grudges
    So, Gay Marriage - UK edition is happening* today. The bigots and homophobes, largely confined to the rump of the Tory party, are by all accounts set to be defeated in the commons and gay weddings will breakout across the land sometime later in the year. The Labour Shadow home secretary gave a decent speech in favour of the Bill:


    *Well the important decisive vote on passing the law is happening anyway
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  19. Dan Lawrence Sangry Grognard

    Location:
    Hall of Grudges
    ...And it passed!
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  20. Sugar-Junkie Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    France
    Congrats ! :D
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  21. shift6 Magister Mundi Elyscape

    How's the cake?
  22. Dan Lawrence Sangry Grognard

    Location:
    Hall of Grudges
    Fabulous.
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  23. XPav Elitist Negative Nancy

    Location:
    Grogaboo hunting
    Nice people!

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  24. Alligator Despondent Fancygator

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  25. Assuming this isn't a result of a hacked account, I would unload any Sweet Cakes stock you might have, they are...cooked.
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    This must play well over at the Taqueria they share a strip mall wall with.
  26. shift6 Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Can anyone direct me to where fat bitches, ugly cunts, and overweight hippos are discussed in the Bible? As a "fellow Christian" I want to know how to support this disciple of Jesus. Any translation is fine, I'm just not recalling anything off the top of my head.
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  27. Kildorn Beardy Magnificence

    Location:
    Boston, MA
    The Book of Frank. It's the bit right after he talks about his sweet ride.
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  28. Otterloop Beardy Magnificence

    Judges 3:19-24
  29. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    Ferndale, MI
    As long as the churches are getting fucking tax exemption, fuck them if they want to turn anyone away. Don't want to marry queers? Give up your tax breaks, you wankers.
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  30. Alligator Despondent Fancygator

    Florida hates equality so much that they'd rather cancel all after-school programs than allow a Gay-Straight Alliance.
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  31. Bahimiron Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    Let's not do that.

    Article doesn't indicate whether 'extracurricular activities' includes football and other sports. Somehow I doubt it does.
  32. Alligator Despondent Fancygator

    Changed. Mea culpa.

    You make a good point, I'm sure that athletic programs would be exempt (and, generously, marching band/choir/other stuff that goes to competition and has after-school practice in addition to in-class hours).
  33. quatoria Beardy Magnificence

    Here's an awesome addenda - that's the fucking county I'm forced to live in, for the moment. I'm going to see if we can do anything about this. If nothing else, at least I can phone up some ignorant motherfuckers and yell at them.
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  34. Yelim Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    Wow, I just read through all of this thread, and I'm now in sheer numbness for the stupidity and unfairness that exists in this world.
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  35. Bah, don't let em get you down.
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  36. Sugar-Junkie Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    France
    So today the law has been fully validated, it just need to be approved by the Senat. Aaaaand our anti-gay pro-familly friends are protesting tonight. Behold mister Gilbert Collard, notable extreme right wing writer/politician/everyday pest and mister Grégoire Boucher, leader of Famille/Mariage :

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    U mad, bros ?
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  37. MatthewF Elitist Negative Nancy

    Wait, that's not Jon Hamm?
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  38. Alligator Despondent Fancygator

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  39. Sugar-Junkie Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    France
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  40. Alligator Despondent Fancygator

    Good on corporate for not putting up with that.

    Also, super lame that you wouldn't be able to just have a "date" with a same-sex friend if you're single on Valentine's day.
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