I have been trying to run dungeons with the guild but gave up because nobody ever wanted to run them with me(except reldan pretty much). I would like to do some dungeoneerin'
I've noticed an upswing in guildies playing - I think we had a dozen or so people on earlier tonight compared to just a few last week.
I stopped playing 1 day and haven't had any desire to pick it up. Knowing they ran a special event for a few hours that if missed no one else can ever do kind of pisses me off. I'm not sure when I'll pick it back up, with no monthly sub to keep me in, could be months. They should send an email about this special event stuff, really disappointing.
They did. More than one if I'm remembering right. So, you haven't had any desire to pick it back up, but you're upset you missed a weekend event? I are confused.
I never got an email. Interesting. Well a special event may be enough to have me pick it back up. That boat has sailed
They also pasted it across the login screen in advance, sent several spammy in-game emails leading up to the event and put it on the front page of the official website. Hopefully next time they'll try to be a bit more obvious!
Regarding dungeons, I'm always up for them, so if you ever need someone to fill a spot, just msg me. I've only done Ascalonian Catacombs and Caudecus Manor explorables though. I have no experience in any of the other explorable mode dungeons. I also have really enjoyed the Fractal dungeon, as its fairly short, and usually isn't all about DPS.
There are nine Fractal dungeons, but you only do three of them per run. Each time you complete one run, you gain a level. Every two levels, instead of it being just three Fractal dungeons, you get an extra Fractal dungeon that has a sort of mini-boss where you can get a special reward chest. In regards to an uncoordinated PUG group, it'd probably be dependent on how experienced the PUG group is. Typical PUG run should take 1-2 hours. I've been pretty blessed with the PUG groups I join, as most people listen and follow orders if given them. Probably one of the bigger issues, is there will be players with the speed run mentality who don't say anything and then run ahead of everyone. I don't have an issue with speed runs, its just that if you're going to do that, it needs to be communicated in advanced. Otherwise you end up with certain people lagging behind, because either they're trying to kill mobs or don't know that people are skipping them and end up getting downed because they get overwhelmed. I don't get why players would want to skip mobs in Fractals though, as you can get some good loot, and it doesn't take that much more time to kill. They also have a chance of dropping vials/globs of mist essences that are needed to create/upgrade ascended items. The only time it seems like a good idea to skip mobs, is for certain points in the dungeon where they are always respawning and don't actually drop loot.
There are nowhere near enough trash mobs in the fractals I've run to consider skipping, imo. There's no AC style damage sponge captain bullshit, it's mostly just Veteran level mobs, 2-5 at a time and 2-3 packs per miniboss. I really enjoy them, but it does take a bit of a time investment.
This very thread turned from half sleep to organizing weekly raids pretty fast. To keep even the uninterested up to date on the very entertaining forum war: The introduction of Ascended gear angered a certain part of the GW2 player base. Mostly long term GW1 players/supporters who dislike vertical progression. One of the main points Anet made in in years of PR about GW2 was the lack of a gear treadmill, so the introduction of a new gear tier requiring repeated runs of a single source for that gear has made those players very angry indeed. Anet decided to merge all posts covering that topic into a single thread. In less than a week that one filled up with 11,000 replies (+ several thousand posts deleted for being too rude/insulting :D ) and 130,0000 views. The majority of posts were highly negative, even if you only look at the non deleted ones. Today Anet closed the thread, without addressing/acknowledging all the anger the 11k threadnaught represented. Which, surprisingly, didn't satisfy those raging masses. Now the general forum is filled with many small threads about that very issue, there is a minor one star review bombing campaign on amazon, and practically every thread is quickly flooded with angry mobs (pro and con Ascended gear) and discussion about vocal minorities, grind, manifestos and lies.
I'm ostensibly in charge. The subforum is open to membership, so just go in there and join it and you'll have access. My schedule varies though and I've not been able to coordinate guild events to the degree I would have liked. If anyone felt up to the challenge of organizing I'd be happy to have the assistance.
I managed to get through a full set of 3 in 90 minutes in a PUG, although to expedite things I took charge of the group and explained what people needed to be doing. A PUG that literally had no clue? It could take up to 2-4 hours depending on which fractals you get. Some are decidedly more obvious and straightforward than others.
Therlun, that's pretty funny and sad. I think A.Net made a massive blunder with how they presented Ascended items, and what began as a knee-jerk reaction to misinformation about what exactly Ascended entailed blossomed when they fed the fire of speculation by talking about how they're going towards all slots being Ascended - all of this before people had even had a chance to see what exactly the Ascended stuff is and how they'd work it into gameplay. The simple reality is that right now there's only 2 Ascended slots, Back and Ring. Agony only takes effect on Fractals past level 10, and you get an Ascended ring for passing level 10. The back slot items are crafted using a rare drop from the Fractals, but you'll also have gotten what you need by the time you needed it at level 10. The content is set up so that you can pretty well experience everything Fractal and then some without getting into the whole Ascended/Agony stuff. But by course of doing a lot of Fractals you'll get the stuff to do more Fractals. It's about providing a sense of progression, even a minor one, and I can't fault them for that. I do feel that Exotics being the end-all be-all are too easy to get, but legendaries are way too hard (from the perspective of being difficult to the point of feeling unattainable to most people and therefore not even provide a motivation to try). I do also think they should have worked the Ascended stuff in a bit better and provided more avenues to obtain the gear from doing a lot more different things. I get their logic - they only needed to put Ascended stuff into the Fractals at first because the Fractals are the only place you'd really need it - but the perception created by that pragmatic approach is awful, and their initial discussion of Ascended items and Agony swept away most people's inclination to give them the benefit of the doubt and replaced it with anger, hate, and suffering.
Gamers are just babies. I understand being upset about seeing something put into the game that Anet said they wouldn't put into the game, but throwing that kind of tantrum is just sad. I have no doubt Anet will respond, but you can't expect them to rush to say something the first time the forums demand it. Especially since people are being such scumbags about it.
How, exactly, do you expect people to respond to something a company does that makes them irate? Because this is bog standard consumer pressure and it's proven successful against non-gaming and gaming companies on numerous occasions.
Yeah, I'm pretty miffed about the new gear tier, even if I do want to go dungeoning with people because it's fun. The thing is, I'm entirely motivated by the activity being fun, and getting pretty new outfits to put on my lurikeen asuran elementalist.
Yes, and throwing a fit is a successful method for children to get their parents' attention. There's a way to communicate your unhappiness without being a piece of shit and a lot of the folks on the forums are actually aware of that. Throwing a tantrum is the easiest way for a lot of people to get what they want, but it's certainly not the only way. In the end, it's beneficial to everybody for the game to succeed, so doing shit like review-bombing Amazon is pretty dumb.
You only call it whining because it's a video game. Do you know how today's products got their warranties? It's because our grandparents whined about buying broken shit.
Or savvy sellers saw offering some limited guarantees that they would rarely have to honor increased their sales compared to their competitors. Anyways... if you want a refund of your money because you don't like what they're doing, ask them for one. A show of people literally taking their money back and stopping playing the game would be significantly more meaningful at making the point.
Yeah without a subscription to cancel it does get harder to get your distaste across to the company (in a way they'll take seriously) without basically pitching a fit, unfortunately. On the plus side, it's a lot easier to just walk away!
Exactly. There's a fairly large divide between whining and demanding satisfaction for a product you paid for. Stamping your feet in protest at the first sign that things aren't going your way is ludicrous, though I do recognize that's just how a lot of this generation's gamers were raised.
I can't find dick all about the history of warranties online, so I'm inclined to believe both of you are pulling this out of your cavernous asses.
Trying to extract a refund from a company for a digital download is extraordinarily difficult if you're outside the EU - if your reason is anything but 'game is non-functional' it's a lost cause, even if it is you're essentially dependent on the goodwill of the particular support person you're talking to - and while companies like Valve have an incentive to help you out once or twice to keep you buying their other products, that bit of incentive doesn't really exist for ANet. Sometimes protest really is the most expedient route.
Anet agreed to all refund requests where the game was bought less than 6 months ago on their site. On one hand it's odd that the oldest preorders of dissatisfied fans are not eligible, on the other hand all game refund requests from within those six months were honoured no questions asked.
Most definitely. If we're playing the "pull-assertions-from-asses" game to drive home our points I didn't want to feel left out.
Flat Stare You add power increasing reward progression, and I'm going to be really annoyed. Don't give in to the people asking what's the point, because they don't get it. The point is that you find the activity fun, not that it's progressing your character.
Maybe I'm not being clear. I haven't said it's not okay to protest. I've said it's shitty to act like an entitled dick while doing so. Though I'm also curious whether or not you think someone deserves to get a refund just because the developers announced something the player doesn't like. Presumably, they enjoyed the game up to that point, right?
I indeed don't think they're entitled to a refund; in part it is why I haven't sought one out myself. It would be pretty disingenuous of me to ask for a refund after spending as much time in game as I have. On the other hand, bitching up a storm about a change I don't want - I'm certainly "entitled" to that.
I'm pretty sure the concept is grounded in the common law of contracts; specifically, the notion that contracts for the sale of goods include certain implied warranties, such as merchantability. I am not an expert in this particular field, but my vague recollection is that the development of this area of law was in large part spurred by industrialization and the proliferation of fungible goods.
I'll agree with that, but I wouldn't assume that they mean power-increasing reward progression right off the bat. They're still batting 99% for me, so I'm happy to sit back and see what's actually in store. The content from this last patch that everybody is bitching about has certainly increased how many guildies have been logging on lately, so it's not all bad.
Do you have documentary evidence or is this Ass Pulling 2: Electric Boogaloo: Longer and Harder Edition?
Yeah, I'm just remembering the abomination that was ToA, and Lum's personal involvement in that. NEVER FORGETTING, LUM!
Where does it hang in relation to the one that says "When in dire need of a bung to plug the gaping hole in an argument, appeal to Authority!"
I think there's a middle ground between ass-pulling and providing citations where "I studied this shit, but only peripherally, and here is my recollection" lives.
I want to read about the history of warranties and I will not be pawned off with an off the cuff "this is tots how it happened" line. You can deliver that history or you cannot. If you (generic plural) studied the topic under discussion enough that your opinion should be respected as authoritative, then it should be real easy for you to come up with a source for your claims. If you can't, you're either full of shit about your status as an authoritative voice (every internet person ever claiming to be a Navy Seal) or you're full of shit about the position you hold (Greg Mankiw and the Romney plan). That's how actual arguing works, even in the courtroom. You make an argument and then you provide the data necessary for other people to evaluate your argument. That way they can come to their own conclusion indepedently. Yeah yeah whatever, it's a transient argument. The really important thing here is that we've stumbled onto a hole in the collective knolwedge of the internet and are therefore duty bound to seek out the facts.
