Hitman Absolution

Discussion in 'PC/Console Game Discussion' started by cnahr, May 30, 2012.

  1. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

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    Godfucking damint. First hitman game I'm skipping completely.
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  2. Nebty Magister Mundi Elyscape

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    Toronto, Ontario
    I don't understand how they thought this was a good idea. These are the same people who made the other Hitman games, right?
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  3. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

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    I've thought about this, and I can't recall any perceptible levels of misogyny or sexism or utter fucking bullshit in previous hitman games. this is just fuck.
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  4. Adree Sangry Malcontent

    I prefer my murder simulators to be moral and upstanding.
  5. WUA Roughly Touched

    Man I am just about tired of this endless tempest-in-a-teapot-of-the-week parade, hearing about how whatever game is in the press at the moment is misogynist, and the subtle, smug, fantasy-based implication that some massive unrecognized group of female gamers would totally have bought Bloodfart 4: Deathcock Reloaded or whatever the fuck, if only those silly developers hadn't put in that bit with the stripper ninjas.
  6. Kalle Despondent Fancybear

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    Sweden
    No. The people who made the other Hitman games are making Heroes & Generals, a WW2 F2P FPS/RTS. I have no idea who the idiots who are making this game are but they're successfully managing to sap my interest in a franchise I've loved since the very first game.
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  7. Elyscape Already Beat BF's New Expansion

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    Then stop reading game news. Problem solved.
  8. Paul Hivemind Coordinator

    Not everyone. Creative director on this was art director on Blood Money. BM's director left for Crytek.
  9. Jamie Madigan Armchair Designer

    The misogyny is bad enough, but honesty what really exasperates me is that it's just so lazy. Latex nun assassins is just such an inherently dumb, lame, creatively bankrupt idea that I can't imagine that the same people responsible for that can do much right.
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  10. aaron Elitist Negative Nancy

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    RAAARR I am so tired of this whinging about rampant misogyny in videogames that, though heretofore swept under the rug, ignored, or excused with a boys-will-be-boys shrug, is now being focused on and criticized by both male and female gamers and journalists as a backwards and immature relic of a stupider time! I'm tired of it! I'm tired of not understanding why people are upset about these things, preferring to think it's just a bunch of lily-livered white-knighters wringing their hands over an imaginary bloc of girl gamers instead of understanding that those who are angered by these things are instead fans of videogames (again, male and female!) that don't like what these things say about gamers, and don't want to be a part of a culture that holds onto these embarrassing tropes while the rest of the world moves on and looks back in disgust! It hurts my brain to try to understand real people's actual objections, so instead I am just going to hope they go away!
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  11. Elyscape Already Beat BF's New Expansion

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    Quick check: you're making fun of WUA, right?
  12. aaron Elitist Negative Nancy

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    Washington DC
    Well I mean, yeah, but now I feel like you kinda took the wind out of my sails.
  13. Elyscape Already Beat BF's New Expansion

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    I asked because I wasn't sure. We could delete this exchange if you'd like.
  14. aaron Elitist Negative Nancy

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    Washington DC
    No. The record must stand.
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  15. Talisker Despondent Fancybear

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    He should've framed the whole thing in an overexplain-the-joke demotivator frame, apparently.
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  16. Nebty Magister Mundi Elyscape

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    Except that we're talking about Hitman, here, not the new Dead or Alive game. I'm disappointed because Hitman is a great series that seems to have thrown itself off a goddamn cliff with this new installment. The sexism is just a bonus.
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  17. Elyscape Already Beat BF's New Expansion

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    Buy now and we'll throw in a month's supply of sexism ABSOLUTELY FREE!
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  18. Quitch Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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    They should have gone all the way and had 47 enlist them as his personal concubines. It would also have hit the target market of people who like to customise their virtual den.
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  19. Cormac Oh, Come On

    Not much excitement for this game on Broken Forum, is there?
    I was looking forward to it, but Tom Francis review on PC gamer has kinda dampened my enthusiasm. Curious to see how it pans out.

    Conan checks out Hitman.

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  20. aaron Elitist Negative Nancy

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    I'm in the same boat as you, enthusiasm-wise. I was looking forward to a new Hitman game, but I'll have to wait and see now. It's looking more and more like a steam sale kind of game.
  21. XenoCrash This Is SEWIOUS

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    Manitoba
    The early buzz isn't promising, but I'm not cancelling my pre-order so I'll let you guys know what I think next week.
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  22. Royal Fool I Pretty Much Live Here

    I have no idea what to make of this. I love the series, but they've not done a very good job of convincing me to want this.
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  23. Hawkeye Fierce Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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  24. Paul Hivemind Coordinator

    Basically they convictioned it. Or convicted it?
    Convicted, Dishonored, Blacklisted.
  25. Kalle Despondent Fancybear

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    Sweden
    Well, it's good to know that the trailer was, in fact, representative of the quality of the game as a whole. Good in the sense that it made me not buy the game.
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  26. Hawkeye Fierce Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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    I'm pretty disappointed, honestly. I was hoping for another Blood Money, and the new Contracts mode sounded like it had potential. Ah well. Between this and K&L it seems like IO has lost their way.
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  27. Paul Hivemind Coordinator

    They didn't lose their way, they just lost their developers. When your creative director of Blood Money leaves for Crytek, rest of the design team leaves for Reto-Moto, and your art director gets promoted to design director, you will end up with....Absolution.

    Still, I am fairly certain I will enjoy the game, I already stopped expecting proper Hitman. Instead, I am looking forward to new Splinter Cell-alike with few Hitman mechanics sprinkled in.
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  28. Elyscape Already Beat BF's New Expansion

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    Hopefully the next one will be a return to form, I guess.
  29. Nebty Magister Mundi Elyscape

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    Toronto, Ontario
    Well this is depressing. I really enjoyed Blood Money, and I was still hoping that this game would be a return to the kind of things I love about Hitman (stupid shit with the latex nuns notwithstanding).
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  31. Talisker Despondent Fancybear

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    I can't wait to play this (once it's under ten bucks on steam)!
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  32. Hawkeye Fierce Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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    I may have spotted the flaw in your reasoning.
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  33. XenoCrash This Is SEWIOUS

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    From impressions I've read on other forums of people who've played the game, it sounds like if you don't need Absolution to just be new levels for Blood Money then you might enjoy it. I've also read some very positive comments about the Contracts mode.

    In any case, I think I've set my expectations so low that as long as it runs I'll have fun.
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  34. dermot Worked The System

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    Bagsy The Latex Nuns for the name of my sleezecore death-metal band!
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  35. Yeah, because I came in here yelling about how great the game is based on the Metacritic score. C'mon. Generally speaking you can glance at the score and at least get a temperature on how reviews are going for a game. Usually I glance down at the scores from a few trusted sites to get a quick impression when I don't yet have time to read reviews. I 'd never recommend taking the stupid Metacritic number as some kind of end all, be all.

    Anyway, I've read a few reviews by now. They've been positive leaning, but some common complaints have included a dumb story and a horrible checkpoint/save system. As XenoCrash said, it seems like some of the playability concessions that Io has made to attract new players might be pretty irksome to big fans of the series' previous entries. I'm new to the series myself, having barely dabbled in past games, so I don't have any baggage like that to overcome. Honestly I was sold by some of the extended gameplay videos that Io released, so I'm still looking forward to my copy arriving this week.
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  36. Elyscape Already Beat BF's New Expansion

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    For what it's worth, having a horrible checkpoint/save system is something of a tradition for the series.
  37. Jason T Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    FWIW I'd read that "so that's good" as heavily sarcastic.
  38. Paul Hivemind Coordinator

    Not really, only the first one had stupid idiotic checkpoints similar to Absolution. SA and Contracts had good save system, Blood Money had a decent one (marred by deleting of savegames on exit and having only three slots).
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  39. Kalle Despondent Fancybear

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    Sweden
    No, the first Hitman (Codename 47) had no in-mission saves at all. You had to beat the entire level in one go before it would save.
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  40. dermot Worked The System

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    I love Blood Money but that's sort of the definition of a shitty save system.
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