League of Legends Spoiler Thread - mid or feed!!!

The Heimer makes this worthwhile

Today I learned that Elise is a Dominion pubstomper.

Those are impressive results, but that looks like a level nine account, which sort of invalidates the exercise. She's strong, sure, but nowhere near as strong as that makes her look.

I have no idea how to play her, but I only tried once on a bot map and haven't looked at any guides. Is she basically AP/hybrid Nidalee with less utility and more damage?

She's freaking weird. She's an AP with 2 %damage skills (one total health, one current health) only one skill that really scales with AP, and an AS steroid. With the Season 2 items her kit makes her tough to itemize, might change in season 3.

On Dominion I build Blackfire => Witchcap => Rylai's and by that time the game is usually over.

She's fairly easy to itemize in Dominion: go tanky. Now that they implemented BFT she wants one of those too, of course.

I'm sure you're right about SR, though.

On SR, Elise's that go top generally build tanky so they can survive against the usual bruisers up there while ideally whittling their health down over time with percentage-based poke and not directly engaging until she's sure she can win. Mid Elise's seem to go tanky AP for the most part but I'm not sure we'll see a lot of that after the initial Elise spam has tapered off because she's just not as useful over the course of a game as Orianna, Anivia, TwistedFate, etc. With the incoming tweak to her cocoon, I think she may eventually be a competitive support.

Have we discussed the item changes yet? Some really interesting items here
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31443382#31443382

Whole lot of active items were added.

Also, for the new shop's search interface, typing 'Tons of Damage' brings up Trinity Force.

Looking at some of the items it seems like you could make a really strong bruiser/support bot lane now. Thinking of a support that takes Mikael's Crucible and Kage's Last Breath

It seems like Riot wants people to do more than just "stack the same shit over and over" for builds. I'm not certain how successful they'll be, but the attempt will be interesting.

And every time this happens, you'll get griefed or called a fag until you finally pick a ranged AD carry.

Brand/Leona bot lane, AD mid. New meta I'm telling ya

Why would you ever play this fucking game without people you know

Because I'd rather rage at people I don't know.

Sounds like I'm going to have to learn how to use active items besides potions, wards, and zhonya's hourglass now.

Trynd is really strong in this mode.

So apparently Morde needs way more AP than he used to? All the recent guides I've looked at recommend Deathcap, which used to be a trollolol item on him.

Ediit: Yo, when did they change the name on Lux's ult? Final Spark? Wtf?

The amount of fun I have been having playing Twitch is kind of odd. I'm even considering buying him and playing him in ranked!

Yeah, most everyone plays him like a normal AP carry these days. A farmed Mord is a true terror with his ridiculous burst and ability to completely fuck the other team if you get the ad carry.

Huh, Lulu is a lot of fun. I don't mind getting stuck on support with her.

<3 Lulu.

I just want to say that Dominion + Teemo + Blackfire Torch is overpowered as hell. Hit a shroom, oh I just lost a third of my health.

I assume on Lulu you initially want to put points into damage or support spells depending on your partner and your opposition? My first game I went all damage with Twitch against Vayne/Sona and it worked out fantastically, but it could just be that my partner was better than their Vayne,

What you want to do initially is queue for dominion and enjoy being an immovable goddamn object. Can kite pretty much anyone indefinitely under a tower, have loads of utility in the constant team fights, have respectable damage in the early/mid game, become fairly tanky in the mid/late game. Good times.

You max muffin 2nd and either your shield or slow first (whichever you didn't pick ignore bar 1 point) depending on the lane.

I think I have finally lost enough normal games that I've settled down into the gutter that I belong in. My last game included a Twitch who just farmed on his own the entire game. Just killed minions, avoided any kind of team fights. We also had a Teemo who just wandered around the map for 30 minutes. He wasn't even killing stuff! They asked to lane together during champion select so I guess they knew each other and were annoyed that other people were trying to play League of Legends in the middle of their minion killing map exploration game.

The other team had a Diana that randomly pressed buttons when we were half a screen away and a Pantheon that ulted 10 feet from his current location whenever he got to about 10 health. I should point out that he ulted towards us.

Eventually we got sick of Twitch being two lanes from the action so three of us decided to just follow him around the map, figuring the other team would see us and come after us. Totally worked, and he ended up with two kills in the fight. That allowed us to push and take out two inhibitors to get the surrender. Of course Twitch probably thinks he did a great job. I think he was like 4/8/3 or something. I ended up 14/3/28 as Sona in an hour+ game that really should have been over at 20. Awesome!

I watched CLG EU lose to [someone] at [some tournament thingy] this weekend 2-1, after winning the first game. I felt like they got outplayed in games 2 and 3 while not playing their best. I was struck by a few things:

1. The other team was utterly indifferent to Wickd playing Irelia in games 2 and 3. Wickd was not a factor in either game, thanks to a combination of things. It isn't like he fed or anything but slipped behind in CS in game 3 (and possibly also 2, I can't recall), and the enemy ganks always seemed a touch more effective even though there weren't many deaths either way.
2. In game 3, the other team's mid went Lee Sin against Froggen's Karthus. It was sort of a delicious twist since he's been midding Lee sin a lot in solo queue over the past month. It worked. With Jax top and Xin Xhao in jungle, the 3x bruiser strategy paid off in spades. Yellowpete, in addition to losing bottom in a repeat matchup (see next point) also stuck to his normal build order on Corki. I think that was a mistake with 3 bruisers, and he should have gone LW earlier. Though losing his lane (but not terribly) probably renders the point moot.
3. Corki + Blitz (CLG) vs Ez + I think Leona in games 2 and 3. CLG did not fair well in either matchup. I didn't see game 1, so I don't know if staying with the preferred strategy made sense in game 3.
4. CLG were winning game 2 but down a couple of towers. The enemy team 3-manned baron at the 18 minute mark and this, + a bad fight for CLG, helped turn the game completely.
5. IIRC Froggen last picked (for his team) Karthus in game 3 knowing he was likely facing lee sin. It was obvious the other team was not rolling with a traditional comp, but CLG didn't do anything to account for that.

I see that this is where everyone went to that enjoyed LoL from Qt3 I thought you all stopped playing it seeing as how that thread over there has been barren! Whoops :) (yes, yes, the grand exodus, blah blah. I don't read all the threads and am way late to the party)

I admittedly only play in the gutter (have yet to play ranked, and I'm sure my normal ELO is atrocious), but I've learned to dread the two-man premade.

I don't think I've won a game yet with a 2 man premade on my side.

Are there any streamers worth watching besides wingsofdeathx? I love the interaction and insight into the player's thought process I get from him, while with other streams I feel I'd be better just viewing a high ELO game with dynamic camera.

Do any other streamers do that constant commentary thing wings does?

My other half and I relax after work by watching a couple of wings's games. Its put some of our TV drama on hold :)

Sometimes HotshotGG does that commentary. And he's really mellowed in his advancing years. Sometimes he gets into advanced strategy/build talk or advanced lane matchup talk, but he'll just sort of stop that on a whim and leave thoughts unfinished some times.

The few times I have watched his stream, I found Locodoco was giving a lot of insightful commentary.

I do this routinely, insofar as I play Summoner's Rift routinely, and win. It depends on the quality of the premade. Waynegrow and I have done well for ourselves.

The thing about 2-man premades is that they put you in solo matchmaking instead of 5v5 matchmaking, so there's a chance you'll have more coordination than the other team.

In theory this is true, but like malphigian has observed at least at lower elos you do see a lot of clueless/trolling duos who amplify their horribleness for some reason. And you can kind of coerce a solo guy into not being dumb, but it's hopeless with a duo. Do they still give you an artificial bump in Elo if you duo? If so, that could explain it.

Try Scarra. He's really nice and informative but plays almost exclusively middle and his stream schedule isn't super consistent because of his Dignitas commitments. But he does have a plethora of Vods and he's pretty much the only streamer I watch now apart from Wings (which given how much I used to watch is really saying something).

Snoopeh is honestly pretty decent too, but no idea when or if he still streams. Again, obviously exclusively jungle.

M5 vs Crs Na at IPL 5, and the guy midding for M5 played AP Yi.

Amongst his exploits were a quadra and a penta as they face-rolled Crs.

Watching the stream today reminds me of when we measured modem speeds in "baud".

The nice thing about being bad at this game is that eventually you're going to get matched up against someone even worse. I just played a game where we had 4 kills before minions reached the outer turrets. I was solo top as Kha'zix against Jax and Volibear (I've lost so many games now that I'd say 60% of the teams no longer have junglers, I may or may not have been downleveled from 30). I was a little nervous about the 2v1 especially with Jax on their side but they dove early on and I got both kills kiting them around my turret. Ended up 13/0/9.

Good times, good times.

Also:

Sorry if that's already been posted, but it's great stuff.

So after 350 or so normal draft games, I decided to try ranked. Is the matchmaking system for ranked designed to instill a sense of humility in new players?

My first game I made the mistake of mentioning it was my first ranked and got a string of expletives along the lines of "NOT AT THIS FUCKING ELO, LEAVE!". I checked postgame and they were all 1300 or so ELO, in all 3 ranked games I've played so far. It's weird because it usually feels like there are a couple players on each team who are clearly WAY better than me, and then a couple idiots (of which I am no doubt one). I assume the matchmaking will even out at some point, it seems fine in my normal games, but it feels like it's going to be rough getting there.