Legal challenger to individual insurance mandate files bankruptcy

Can you guess why?

Well, talk about showing the point.

It's almost like the only ones benefiting from delaying/preventing single payer is the insurance industry itself!

Ell Oh Ell.

Makes sense. Why should she have to pay to have insurance when she can use the government to get out of her debts anyway?

Also, how broke do you have to be to file for bankruptcy over a bill that is less than 5K?

5k is a gamebreaker for a surprising number of people.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/08/nation/la-na-healthcare-plaintiff-20120309

Speaking of which!

http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/26/whom-does-the-nfib-represent-besides-its-members/

Hilarious. Rugged independent except when shit goes south, when she turns into a "blood sucking parasite on the government's teat". Surprise. That's what government is for you nincompoop.

Also fuck you guys for getting me to post in this shitdump. I didn't notice where I was.

I don't even feel bad linking the fact that these people filed for bankruptcy over medical bills, because in this case they 100% brought it on themselves.

That was probably last straw - with all credit lines maxed, with all credit cards maxes and so on... 5K was probable the last bill that they just couldn't afford.

True, but I should have read the link. It was only part of the debt in question. 50k is a big sum. Thanks to student loans, I have more than that (in debt), especially if you count my mortgage. Then it goes way over that. But Jason's original post seemed to suggest that the medical bill was the issue. It was only part of the issue. Still, that's enough to make this a bit ironic.

Aeon, this isn't the shitdump forum. It's just a place where there may be more controversy. I'm not sure why Jason posted this here, though.

She seems confused here, actually. Does she realize that filing for bankruptcy means that she would NOT be paying her bills? Who cares if she always paid them in the past. That's not the point here. The article is suggesting that she might mean that these are her husband's bills and not hers, in which case she also doesn't seem to understand how marriage works.

As for her final sentence, the healthcare mandate does not prevent you from choosing what kind of health insurance you have, does it? Or perhaps she means it should be our right to not have it at all. In that case, a person should suffer from the consequences, and not get a government bailout, I would assume?

Shitty news scraper link. Nice one Jason.

I know I'm in the minority with my love of the individual mandate so I expected some FIREWORKS.

Yeah, someone on QT3 pointed that out and I had a sad.

This describes the mechanics a bit. You need to buy a "minimum" plan or more that the government defines.

sob I betrayed your trust

Twice.

That Ezra Klein article is interesting, Jason. I didn't know that there was no way to enforce the individual mandate. So why would anyone pay the fine, if there is no way to enforce it? Is the govt. counting on ignorance here?

Yeah, basically. People's knowledge of government enforcement capacity is apparently low; people could get away with a lot more tax evasion than they actually do.

I'm going to consider this thread a colony of the DnD forum, mostly because I've been making and snarfing banana and pecan pancakes preeeeeetty much all day and am in a super awesome mood as a result!

Kind of like with speed limits, the general assumption is that busts will be rare but extremely painful when they happen. If you can afford to avoid it, why take the risk that the government might randomly decide to grind your bones into meal with the court system?

Besides I'm sure there will be plenty of legal minimum options out there for the people who shit themselves at the thought of helping anyone else.


Honestly the whole protest thing reminds me of the pants shittingly intense protests that happened when Publix was putting a store into our town. Fast forward a couple years and every single one of the protestors shopped there regularly like it was NBD. God damn they used to make the best cookies ever. Frosting on top of a vanilla cookie with some sprinkles. Doesn't sound like much, but they would be sold out before the things came out of the oven.

What was I talking about?

banana and pecan pancakes. Tell me more.

i am hungry and also want to hear more about pancakes

Publix is the best store ever. What kind of assholes protested that?

I just kinda woke up this morning and decided to make fuckloads of pancakes. Best decision I have made in quite some time.

First you buy pancake related supplies, then you mix up a huge batch in a bowl, then you chop up shitloads (metric of course) of bananas and pecans. Then you make them into little tiny circles so that you feel not quite so fat and because tiny portions of unhealthy food in mass quantities is a thing, and then you cook them in a giant pan.

So less like pancakes and more like cake cookie hybrids. I don't know if it works in the oven, but I'd like to try that. You could also pre-cook the bananas to make them more sugary and flavorful in various ways but my cooking is like unplanned and such, much like my life.

Assholes who cared a lot about the trees in the parking lot. So Publix turned the parking lot into an obstacle course of trees. If you're ever in Beaufort SC on Lady's Island visit the Publix and you will see what I mean immediately.

I don't see myself ever getting down there, so I insist you go take photos and report back. This tree-filled parking lot intrigues me greatly.

You mean this?

That's a lot of trees.

An yet I get audited and all I've ever filed are damn 1040 EZs.

Oh it looks fine from up top, but you don't drive from that perspective. You're constantly stuck trying to deal with cars that stick out at odd angles thanks to the trees in their spots. So the front of every one of the surprisingly narrow lanes is choked by cars that can't pull in.

So you turn in and wham, doom.

Once upon a time, I made some banana pecan pancakes. Then I ate all of them, and didn't share any with Ebly or Alexb. The end.

Epilogue: Afterwards, I realized that I had some batter left over! But I wasn't hungry any more, so I threw it away. FIN.

I don't like this post. :(

Whattadick!

Pecans, meh. What you do is you make banana-chocolate chip pancakes, and you coat those fuckers down with equal parts peanut butter and honey. You have to do it while they're hot, though, so the peanut butter gets all melty and gooey and delicious.

Did you know you can't discharge student loans in bankruptcy court? They are forever, they will eventually doc your SS checks for the money. Yes, we finally have Americans who owe student loans getting their SS checks garnished.

God Bless America!

Jesus christ this sounds like heaven. I can't decide if I hate you or love you.

yes that is a pretty stupid thing

college should really be free but welp, 'murrikka

No college should not be free. And nothing is free anyway, someone is always paying for it.

Okay since it wasn't clear: college should be free or very close to it for students. Better?

Nope, still a very stupid idea.

You gonna back that opinion up with anything that isn't from your shittastic world view there, champ?

Oh, no, you're not. You're throwing out your bullshit opinion again thinking anyone here gives a fuck. Go do that on one of the other dozens of forums you frequent where nobody gives a flying fuck.

on the other hand, every other civilized country

Checking so far on both Canada and Japan, and neither of them pay for college for all students. Guess they aren't civilized countries.