Legitimate rape: The GOP just can't quit you

And, uh. It's not a bad approach, presuming one's goal is to be a hateful shitbag.

Hi, ELIZA.

I have a cervix between my head and shoulders. Weird stuff.

Lum has a point, and not to rag on your very nicely jarring image, RyanMM, but I don't see how harping on the method helps. I've had two TVU and they're no more uncomfortable than a pelvic exam. Granted, the first time my right Fallopian tube was in the process of rupturing, so discomfort was a little relative, but I don't recall the second being traumatic at all. It's not how a woman is getting an ultrasound, but why. And I think most of us agree that the why should be up to the woman and her doctor, end of story.

To paraphrase Reagen the scariest twelve words in the English language are "I'm from the government and I'm here to probe you. Spread 'em".

That's why I mention the medical necessity. Having the procedure just because a lawmaker says you should is what makes it a violation.

I would no more be OK with legislation that says in order to get Viagra, you have to have a urethral scope performed. That too would be medically unnecessary in most cases and a violation.

The risks are very very low, but there are risks of harming the fetus when performing ultrasounds. The Mayo Clinic, who I trust more than Dr. Ben Kim, says researchers haven't noticed any adverse effects, but that we should remain cautious.

I'm sure this doesn't factor in to the Republican considerations, however.

On the other hand, Speak's TVUs were super sadface badness time.

Have a doctor administer then next time.

Amusingly, doctors don't generally administer ultrasounds. That's what ultrasound techs are for. Well, that and triggering crippling, months-long pain, I guess.

edit - I stand corrected. Most of them were administered by actual doctors. She still strongly disagrees with the comparison to the pelvic exam.

The Republican Speaker of the House has announced that the bill will not get House approval.

I did not see that coming. Especially from Jase.

I am very happy now.

From the link:

This. This is what pro-lifers should do. Don't want people to have abortions? Make birth outcomes less horrible, and more women will choose to carry a child to term even if they choose not to raise it themselves. As a bonus: healthier women and babies!


Of course, "support for women with unplanned pregnancies" is probably a Trojan horse for "counseling that browbeats them with graphic photos and how they're going to Hell for having an abortion," but a man can dream.

Republicans.

THIS JUST IN: Babies are now organs!

I despair about how often this thread gets bumped. World, STAHP. STAHP.

That's an awestruck dismay like.

What. No.

I am going to look at the bright side and say: At least they're running out of arguments.

However, Insane Troll Logic rarely ends well. I dread the potential consequences.

Not to mention that this particular argument completely contradicts all that "personhood" business going around in other states.

Since when does the GOP know about things like science when drafting legislation about it?

... I just realized they inadvertently just gave us an argument for abortion, when you really think about it.

In a sense yes, but nobody proposing this actually takes the organ nonsense seriously.

Oh, I know. And I'd just lose faith if anyone did. But the idea is, nonetheless, utterly hilarious.

So #LiberalTips2AvoidRape is apparently the latest thing to prove that conservatives do totally care about women. Except it's not about women, it's about promoting gun rights and wrapped in rape jokes. The usual vile skunkthrottlers think it's hilarious obviously.

This forum is simultaneously the only reason why I still have faith in humanity while it's also one of the things giving me evidence that I really shouldn't bother anymore.

To Congresswoman Dipshit:

The latest an elective abortion can be performed is as 20 weeks. A fetus at 20 weeks is on average 300 grams, or 2/3 of a pound. An adult human liver weighs 3 pounds, the heart also 300 grams, the lungs about 500-600 grams each, and the brain 1300-1400 grams ALTHOUGH THAT SIZE MIGHT BE OF HIGHER VARIANCE TOWARDS THE LOW END AMONG FUCKING IDIOT CONGRESSTARDS WHO ARE PRO LIFE AND THEN CALL FETUSES ORGANS.

This idiot literally assumed "Well a baby at birth is 9 pounds sooooo *fart noise*"

Just a question: are #liberaltips2avoidrape for legitimate rape, or the expanded liberal definition of rape?

— Jesse Taylor (@jesseltaylor) February 19, 2013

:(

That hashtag is horrible, both in it's initial concept of being gun control wrapped in.. whatever the fuck that is. And for it's evolution into being "conservatives troll twitter, make horrible jokes about rape and wonder why they have an image problem"

Don't forget: Rape is the victim's fault!

#liberaltips2avoidrape Stay hideous, continue not to shower, shave or wear deodorant.

— Clay (@ClayFullick) February 19, 2013

#keepitupitsnotlikethisislosingyouelectionsoranything

Hey, if she wasn't attractive I wouldn't have been completely blameless for my lack of self control!

Well then obviously you need to get her drunk first. It's her fault if she's not sober enough to say no, she should have known what she was getting in to when she started drinking.

Seriously, this is the worst pro gun campaign in the history of political themes.

edit: if I used twitter, I'd be horribly tempted to start a competing hashtag about how to prevent slavery with gun ownership.

All very true, but somewhat beside the point. I would bet you your beverage of choice that McClurkin doesn't buy the "fetuses are organs" bullshit any more than you or I do. It's clearly a throwaway face-saving remark meant to avoid stating the hiding-in-plain-sight truth that these abortion clinic regulations have nothing to do with medical exigency and everything to do with trying to make abortion practically inaccessible.

Woah, don't try and associate us with your nation's idiocy.

Having grown up in a cult, I can tell you why these assertions make sense to the people casting such aspersions. It has to do with highly controlled education.

Wait...the Conservative response to Liberals mocking their views is to take their views, contribute them to Liberals, then mock those views.