Let's Watch Randissimo suffer! TMGS1's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Routes

Best part of DA2 = Hawke doing dat eyebow. Whoever programmed that face is a saint and a scholar.

Programmers need more love. They do beautiful things.

I was mostly thinking "cute," but those words also work I guess.

Actually, that does make me like Sakuya a little better. Shaymin is the cutest. ;_;

And I picked Harrowmont myself, though I'll probably pick Bhelen next time.

I totally forgot, his ability to get Arisawa to go into rival mode with me, even though I'm not going for him. It's happened for the second time. Argh.

Oh, James. Never tell people your weaknesses. They just might use them against you. :D

That looks like it was based on a Chia pet. Kinda cute, though. :D

It is the most adorable of Chia pets and I would adopt it.

This thread has convinced me to go for Sakuya again~ I'm trying for best friend mode. Once I've completed that, I'll have all of Sakuya's CGs. I AM THE SAKUYA QUEEN.

I attempted to romance Sakuya the first time I ever played, and I thought everything was going smoothly besides the fact that Arisawa was going all rival on me. Then towards the end, I found him gardening, or something, with her. I was devastated. I always end up forever alone. Always.

And this is why I'm romancing Morimura second or third time around on this LP.

So I can suffer for you guys.

You are an amazingly strong person. I do not know how you do it.

When it comes to psychologically scarring myself, I am so very, very much an M.

Until it pushes and becomes traumatic. That's when I am NOT enjoying it anymore. *rocks self in fetal position at thoughts of Onii-chan Control*

This is why I'm generally careful about the material I delve into: I have a morbid fascination and a lot of trouble stopping myself from finishing a story, movie, etc, so if it's something that will terrify me, and that I will definitely regret, and that leaves behind light trauma, I am not touching that.

The Amanohashi route, while there are aspects of it that bother me, overall intrigues and interests me more than anything, so I don't mind playing it. For the most part. A part of me cries on the inside, but I'm enjoying this trip because it's fun. And a learning experience. But my God, Amanohashi, why.

I actually kinda have this in common with you. (Hope that didn't come out too weird :/) But yea, the Onii-chan thing was a bit much, even for me and I can handle stuff like that quite well. I kind of wondered what made them go as far as they did with it.

That didn't come out weird at all, I have a couple of friends like me too, no worries. XD

That manga was traumatic for me. I have friends who read it who thought it was terrible but hilarious, but for me it hit a lot of DO NOT WANT buttons. I can't. I really can't, with that manga. I'm avoiding it like the plague. I don't even want to continue reading it for science.

This is probably why I'm dissensitized to a lot of things on this forum, because I go "Is it as bad as Onii-chan Control? No? Then I'm good." Except I'm not since some stuff STILL bothers me, but I don't realize it since the blow's dullened.

If it scars even someone who is willing to play Amanohashi's route, then I worry for myself. My reaction was "Meh. So what?" I have a new theory: Maybe you're not an M, Randissimo, you're just self-sacrificing? Is it weird that I'm trying to figure out if you'd be the type of M that Neuro likes?

I have an outrageously high squick tolerance meter.

And about the Sakuya bombing...I've come to the conclusion that green haired, glasses wearing guys in both TGMS 1 and 2 are more likely to bomb. It is certainly the case for me in TGMS 2 and when I played TGMS 1...Sakuya was annoying when I'm already trying to juggle two guys and maybe a third (Not you, Sakuya!)

Maybe the nerdy types are just more clingy/sensitive because they used to be bullied and now their insecurities have manifested into an inferiority complex such that if you ignore them for even a little bit, they'll blow up at you?

Konami is really applying psychological theories to its characters. Well done!

I'm a bit of both, really. I actually always wanted to play Amanohashi's route, so I figured I'd make an LP of it as well. I really am an M when it comes to scarring myself, though: I do things like this for personal amusement as much as I do it to entertain others.

.......... I really don't know if I would be. I think I'm too much in the same boat as him to really qualify. By which I mean, I don't understand people. At all. Hence why I like Yako so much: She's what I'd love to be able to do. Read people and understand.

... Yeah, no, Neuro would find me boring as fuck to be around. And it's not weird at all, I've wondered myself.

No worries, like I mentioned before, I had other friends who read it and didn't mind. I don't know why, it just hit really bad DO NOT WANT buttons for me.

Konami wins all the awards in my books, they produced some of my favourites series of all time. They understood my love of cardboard boxes and then decided that they needed a character who would be in a cargo ship with one. Bless them and every videogame they make.

When I first met Amanohashi, I called my niece up (she introduced it to me) and was like "CAN I DATE THIS FANTASTIC MAN?" and she was like "YES, BUT WHY WOULD YOU WANT TOO?" She then proceeded to explain how creepy she thought he was. This did nothing to help, and I continued on with my plan to romance him. Of course, I got distracted and started playing the another game, but still.

I swear, I am not this talkative. I'm usually very shy.

Oh yeah, that. Why Arisawa. ;_; Too bad you can't tell your rivals they've misunderstood, like in the second game.

And I'm curious enough to go for the mustache myself (I keep forgetting how to spell his name). He's creepy, but I think playing his route would be amusing enough to downplay that. Besides, this isn't an M-rated game, so you know there's a limit to the things that will happen in rosebushes.

Still, I kinda wish we had gotten a quest to pair him up with the fashion guy instead. Like the Aveline/Donnic sidequest in DAII, but less cute. :D

We would call it The Fabulous Road.

It would also need some new reaction sprites drawn.

Actually, I wanted to say that Chiharu was one of the routes I had the most fun with. If you make sure to get your stats just high enough to unlock everyone you can get a lot of after shopping scenes that you don't generally get on a normal playthrough.

Sakuya just... doesn't do anything for me. He's sweet and all but, I dunno, he has very little personality, and he looks like a girl outta GL manga, and I like my boys a bit manlier then that. Just, you know, a bit of backbone is attractive in a guy.

Amenoshi is creepy because YOU'RE HIS STUDENT. Also he's at least in his 30's. If you were not his student, or if the age gap was less wide, it wouldn't be that bad, but as it stands it's just weird. Why would a normal man that age woo a high school student? What can they possibly have to talk about? It's not like they happened to fall in love slowly, like in most teacher romance plots. It's just not working for me, too many DO NOT WANT. one of the secret characters of TMGS 3 suffers from similar issues, in what would be a very touching romance if the protagonist was not a high school student.

Yeah, there's that. Although I don't mind a little girlyness, Sakuya is just too soft for my taste. >_>

I'm also not crazy about clingyness. Talking of clingyness, though, I wonder who the clingiest of them all is.

Actually, I kind of prefer guys to be just a teensy bit pathetic. It's just so cute when they have to try that much harder for you~ I don't know, I like guys who are shy and sweet. Plus, Sakuya has the best confession ever. And he's one of the few guys who actually says "aishiteru" instead of "suki."

I think this explains your interest in psychology. I knew a guy in college that liked taking the abnormal psychology classes, and he told us once that most psych majors wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. He was a very strange guy with an odd sense of humor. I didn't know him too well, though.

I would read that route, but the thing is, it might set me off in berserk mode for personal reasons. So I think it best that I avoid it. Otherwise, I would play that game to death, I'm rather curious about it. :D

No, no, no...Hikami has never bombed me in the second game, even if I met him in my first year. It's really a matter of programming than it is of personality. There are ways to avoid being bombed in the second game so that the only person you have to worry about is Saeki. There's no way to avoid it in the first game, unless we're talking about Himuro or Amanohashi. I had four bombs at one time to deal with, and three were all guys I'd met in my first year, the fourth being Hibiya.

I don't think it's a matter of being just the nerdy type but of being the shy type as well. People see you as being weak, and they're more likely to gang up on someone who won't or can't fight back. I was bullied a lot as a child because I was shy and didn't have any friends. I don't see Hikami as being the type that would be bullied because he's not shy.

I would just avoid studying with her, but she raises social which is something I needed in the route I was taking. And of course she raises intelligence, which is a stat that Sakuya likes. Aaargh.

I'm still gonna do his route myself, but I get the feeling he's a bit of a doormat, and I don't really like the type. I still loved it when he chased off one of the date disturbers by being polite to him, though.

You might want to thank the model rigger for that, actually. Model rigging is an equally important but thankless job, much like programming. :D

So noted. That model rigger is a saint and a scholar!

I like Sakuya okay, it's just that he's clearly far more interested in flowers than our heroine. I don't want to walk in on him humping a vase one day.

OTPs of the game:
Hazuki x Hibiya
Sakuya x Flowers
Mihara x His Own Reflection
Jin x Being The Best Guy In The Game

I guess your mileage may vary on whether or not this is considered bullying, but when Itaru was doing his proper morning greeting campaign or whatever, he go a lot of "what a freak"-type responses. So he does have some of the same troubles, but for totally different reasons. Sakuya was shy, Itaru didn't get social mores.

And honestly, I think everyone just bombs a lot in the first game. I know a lot of people say that they see Sakuya bomb them more than anyone else, but that was never really a problem I had (Hazuki on the other hand, ugh.) Is it possible that Sakuya doesn't necessarily bomb more, but you just notice it more because you dislike him? It also may be that you accidentally unlock Sakuya more than the other guys because the stat you have to raise for him is intelligence, which most people try to raise in order to get good grades. Just a thought.

I think maybe after I finish getting Sakuya's best friend route I'll try an experiment where I unlock all the guys, record the dates I do so, don't go out with anyone, and record how many times each guy really bombs me. Because it doesn't seem fair for people to hate Sakuya because he bombs them so much if he doesn't actually bomb more than anyone else does.

Yes, Sakuya's my baby and I will forever defend him because he's adorable and I love him.

Someone should draw this.

Actually... *eyes drawing tablet*

And I kinda like Arisawa (Idk, she's cute. And yay, Int bonuses), so it's kind of a shame to either ignore her or rival her.

Hmm, actually, I get the impression that Hibiya bombs the most, but that could be because I don't really want to date him, and he never seems to decline when I ask him out for one. When Hazuki bombs it's easy enough to find a day he won't go out, so I'll only waste one weekend on him.

Oh, oh! Speaking of alternate pairings, I have to say that I ship Haruhi x Amachi SO HARD. They would have the cutest, most mischievous children ever. I imagine them as twins, a boy and a girl and the boy is effeminate enough that sometimes the two of them are able to get away with switching places, which leads to adorable cross dressing scenes where the girl (Saaya) blackmails the boy (Shin) into pretending to be her and taking her shift at Haruhi's bakery so that she can sneak off on a date without making Shouta mad. Cue the girl Shin likes walking in and, thinking it's her best friend Saaya she's talking to, admitting she likes Shin and asking "Saaya's" advice. (I really should write that 2nd generation fic with the alternate pairings one of these days. The other pairings were Toudo x Komori, Akagi x Chiyomi, and Hisoka x Wakaouji.)

Uh, sorry, that was kind of a long tangent about the second game, which this thread isn't even about. I'll shut up now.

Problem is, doing the rejected-date trick only puts it off for a little while, whereas a real date will give you a longer grace period. Sometime it looks like I get bombed more if I date more - like the rejected guys see me waltzing arond with other men and got jealous XD
Seaki always bomb me when things start working out with another guy. Leave me alone, asshole, you had your chance. Go and put more mousse in your hair.

Aaaand on a completely unrelated note! Someone mentioned Oniichan Control, and I thought "is that actually a thing?" and uncle Google told me it is indeed. I've stopped in page one, not for the reasons you think: my best friend is named Noa, and it's a fairly common Israeli name. A teeeeny bit too awkward for me, reading an incest-porn manga with the female lead named the same as my best friend. She might read it herself, tho. It also reminds me of Noah, like the dude from the bible, which is whole other layer of awkward. Why, delirious author of this manga, WHY.

Hibiya still bombs me a lot though. >_< Why dammit, we all know it's not the heroine you really want.

And yeah, jealousy is a powerful motivator. :P

Here's a hint. Most of the guys have a day of the week or month when they have something else they have to do, so if you ask them out on one of those days, they'll always turn you down. This defuses the bomb without you having to date them, though I think they bomb you again sooner than if you had just dated them in the first place. Hibiya won't date you on the 3rd Sunday of a month, due to mandatory sports club practice, and it's the same way with Suzuka, though with Suzuka this won't be true after the sports tournament during the summer (?) of the third year. Hazuki has work on Tuesdays and Thursdays and Madoka has work Mondays and Wednesdays. This means their bombs take a little more luck and timing to defuse this way than Hibiya's and Suzuka's. The only ones you can't defuse with this method are Sakuya and Mihara, as neither one of them has a job or is a member of a sports club, which, if you use this method, would give you something of an excuse to get mad at Sakuya for bombing too much, I suppose. However, that reasoning's really only fair if you get just as mad at Mihara, unless you feel the same way about Mihara that I do about Sakuya and never mind defusing one of his bombs.

Honestly, I don't have that much trouble with the rivals and don't go always go actively out of my way to ignore them unless I'm doing best friend mode (in which case, do whatever you can not to unlock them.) I usually get a job at the flower shop when I'm going for Sakuya because I like to role play it like Suzuki Mayu (the name I always give my girl when going for Sakuya) is just as much into flowers as Sakuya, though she's not as knowledgeable. If you're good enough friends with Arisawa, you don't even have to worry about her wanting to take Sakuya away from you. (Just don't do stuff with Sakuya on double dates unless Arisawa is already at tokimeki as that's a really good way to trigger rival mode.) I usually end up being friends with Arisawa and still getting my guy! And then several years later, Arisawa mends her broken heart with her cute kouhai, Masaki.

He's just that insecure - he's whole route is stroking his ego, it's like a reverse Onii-chan route. Konami really can't do kohei route for their lives. They've gotten close with the third game, but still not quite there. Then again, maybe it's super popular in Japan, and us ignorant foreigners cannot see the perfection that is childish boys that sound and look like they're 12 and need you to baby them consistently. That only works if they're tsun-tsun about it.