Discussion in 'Traditional Non-Video Gaming Gaming' started by Dan Lawrence, Jan 4, 2012.
They claim the Bones miniatures don't need primer, but I find myself skeptical.
I guess they could have made a worse unboxing video if they had found a way to poke you in the eye while you watch it. The opening shot was reminiscent of Loch Ness Monster footage.
I painted one at Pax East last year. It took the paint fine, no priming. It hasn't really gotten a lot of use so I can't say whether or not the paint comes off, but I did lose some paint that day carrying it around. I think some of the paint was still tacky when I put it in my pocket.
I've painted a couple without priming first and things were fine.
Then again, priming is so easy and quick that I'm not sure it's worth skipping, especially if there's a big pile of them to get the efficient assembly line thing going.
I'd guess you'd also want to prime them black/dark grey if you planned to paint them in dark colors, right?
I need a bit of advice.
I have a ton of Warmachine/Hordes stuff, and I'm quite keen on dabbling in some other mini games. I've got my eye on Infinity, because it's a low model count skirmish game with interesting mechanics that I might be able to entice a few friends with, but I can't really justify getting any more models with my current lack of storage. Realistically speaking, I have way too many WM/H models, and I've come to the conclusion that I should probably sell some of it off. I have 4 factions and two of them - Cryx and Skorne - just aren't grabbing me.
So, I'm faced with the task of selling off two armies of ~50 models each. I've never done this before and I have no idea what the best method would be.
Sell each model/unit separately on Ebay
Sell each army en masse on Ebay
Use Bartertown or something similar (recommendations much appreciated!)
My other option is to register on the main UK Warmachine forum - which, bizarrely, is The Warhammer Forum - and try my luck there.
Have any of your done something similar for entire armies, and if so what should I watch out for?
Ebay is fine. Something local is better first if you have any kind of local gaming community or forum.
If you go local, you have a better shot of getting decent money for it as a lot.
If you go ebay, sell it as a lot if everything is painted exceptionally well. I don't mean what most people throw up there and call "pro painted." I mean if you could have a shot at winning best painted army awards if you took it somewhere, put it on ebay as a whole. Otherwise you're almost certainly better off parting it out.
Generally if someone is bidding on a lot they are getting some things they probably don't want and will factor that into their bidding. If everything look awesome together though, that can overcome that because they get more cohesively painted stuff that they could use on a display base even if they didn't want to use all the models.
Also, this seems timely if you use ebay:
http://blog.spikeybits.com/2012/12/...SpikeyBits (Spikey Bits)&utm_content=FaceBook
Selling them on ebay will be the easiest route but might not get you as much as you were hoping for. Selling on TWF will likely get you more (or at least get you a few more bids on your ebay auctions) but be advised that signing up just to sell stuff isn't allowed and your sale posts will be deleted unless you've got a few 'real' posts under your belt already.
My advice would be to try and sell them as a lot first and then if that doesn't work out, split them and relist each piece/unit separately.
It's almost entirely unpainted. I am a hoarder.
What sort of other mini systems are you eyeing? It might make a difference, depending on how popular/prevalent they are.
I'm a big proponent of Bartertown. It does skew more to US users, but there are still a number of UK traders. The nice thing is that you may be able to manage a large trade and go army for army. I recently swapped quite a bit of 40k stuff (that was gathering dust) for some more Warmachine gear. I'm already deep into the system and was interested to try a new faction.
If you want to try and get cash for your stuff, eBay is the way to go. Bartertown could cut out the middleman, though, and get you the models you want sooner. I'm happy to give some more B-town related advice, if it might be helpful.
Infinity, which is pretty low model count and I scored a hefty discount from a local online store here so I probably wouldn't want to go for a trade.
I'll take a look at Bartertown at any rate - I'd be happy to trade to fill out some of the gaps in the WM/H stuff that I'm keeping. Cheers for the info :)
My brother founded Bartertown back when he was in college. True Story. He doesn't run much of the day to day stuff anymore but let me know if you guys ever need any help over there.
Somehow I've managed to lure two of my boardgaming friends into picking up their own Warmachine faction boxes, so it looks like miniatures stuff will now be a regular part of the game night rotation in my living room. Especially since one of them thinks he can tempt his brother into the game as well.
This is way nicer than having to drive the ~30 minutes to the less-creepy FLGS that does tabletop stuff in order to get a game in.
I may come to regret the "I'll assemble and paint your stuff if you pay me in beer" deal, though.
I managed to get two RPG/board gaming friends into Warmachine back at the end of 2011 and we ended up meeting weekly, usually in someone's living room or basement, for most of 2012. It's undoubtedly one of my favorite nights of each week and I'm so happy that we've kept it up this long. A few months back we even managed to add two other friends to the group. We just began a Slow Grow League (spaced out over the next few months) to help everyone get into a new faction (making it even easier for the new guys).
While I certainly recommend keeping it low-key and casual for a while as they become accustomed to the game, I cannot recommend timed turns and scenarios enough. It was a bit of a battle to get the first two guys on board, but they quickly found that they're ahead of the curve now that they want to show up to tournaments and other events. Plus I happen to think that it makes for a better game experience overall.
We started with 12 minute turns at the 25 point level (more than enough), then kept 12 minute turns (with one 3 minute extension) going into 35 points. We also started experimenting with Death Clock at that point, using a free iOS app.
Happy to hear that you've brought more players into the fold! It's such an enjoyable game and it's even better to share with friends.
Well, I'm very thankful to him for it! In general I've found it to be a well-run community. I think that you have to be a bit smart, and careful, in how you choose your trading partners and make the trades, but it can be a great boon for anyone with reasonable expectations. And thank you for the offer!
Yeah, I've been starting with battle box games for the brand-new players, but I agree that timed turns are probably a good idea once they hit ~25 points. I'm also in the middle of building a table that'll hopefully have some nice space for control point scenarios, so that should help too.
Incursion from SR2012 was our constant running scenario for a while. Sure, there are forces that aren't the best at it, but it does pack a lot of tactical variety into a small, simple package.
Be sure to post pics of your table! We've used textured mats with movable terrain, but have recently moved towards building a foam-based board.
Will do! We're basically doing the two-roads-meeting terrain board that's in the most recent No Quarter, but planning to also add a shallow river. So it's two 2x4 sections of MDF on a simple pine frame, and we're building up gentle hills with 3/16" foamcore sheets and fiber paste, then painting / flocking / envirotex-ing the thing.
Turns out that while my wife isn't interested in playing miniatures stuff she loves craft projects -- she's already planning out another board she wants us to make of a northern Khadoran railroad junction in winter.
Oooh, lucky. We're working (very slowly) on a desert board, better to house a ruined Menite temple. We'll probably start in earnest after TempleCon, as I have a bunch of miniatures to paint first. I'd post pictures of them here, but then I'd just feel even worse every time IainC posted. :)
I've heard good things about SR2013. Not that I've played any scenarios myself, but it is something I'd recommend to any new-ish players once they have the mechanics mostly sorted. Ye olde pCaine and the like get a lot less un-fun when they're forced to not be a goddamn chicken all game...
I have a feeling the Dominar Raseth players won't like the smaller kill box.
Just make sure there's extra cakes nearby, they'll be grand
So it's going to be at least 2 weeks before I get the actual base I plan on using from DragonForge, so in the meantime...
I've done some washing of the metal since I took the picture.
The shattered helljack is an especially great touch.
Thanks! The legs didn't sit flat to the ground, so I put some Leviathan bits under his foot, too. Hard to see with the black base, but they're there. :-)
I am pretty stoked with how it came out.
Can you post a play by play? I'd love to steal your ideas for my Judicator (which does not yet exist).
I got some of the 'classic' helljack bits from Privateer's webstore, along with 3 metal cables they had on there.First thing I did was tear out some of the back of the Slayer's arm and stick the cables inside. While the glue and green stuff dries, I made some holes in the top and bottom of the first and stuck cables in either end. For what it is worth, I painted the Judicator in parts before assembling(In my case, legs, hips, center torso, rocket pods, shoulders, head and arms). One word of warning, the metal adds a good bit of weight to the all resin arm, so attaching it to the shoulder is a bit tougher. As for the base, I ordered one of these 120mm bases.
Your Judicator looks great, DragonPup! I just wrapped up with my Conquest last night (sans base, like you), but unfortunately I don't have a light box set up so all you get is a crummy smartphone pic:
Oh man, I am not looking forward to seeing that thing on the table. It looks great, though - very nice!
That is a styling Conquest. For lightboxes, I bought mine off of thinkgeek which included the lamps for like $45, but they don't seem to have it anymore.
This is what I'm going to be doing, but I have a bunch of lights already.
haha, I thought it was an Eldar fig, so I thought it was some sort of meta-commentary on which game was better =)
Well, I won't open that can of worms. ;-)
I did lighten the shattered helljack bits under his foot so they're a little easier to make out. I also added a new front, as well as a side and read shot to my flickr page.
I love the PP systems, especially now that WH40K has premeasure. WMH is all about guesstimating distances perfectly and you're often dancing on that razor edge between victory in defeat. 40k is great and has great models and imagery but blowouts are not very interesting, where in WMH you can pull off a cunning caster kill if your opponent gets careless when he's ahead. Unfortunately I can't get games around here so my Cryx and Khador get no love. :( I'm repurposing lich lord terminus as a c'tan shard though!
Have you tried roping new people into WarmaHorde with battlebox games? Whipser them the sweet nothings of clearly written rules, an actual tournement system and no yearly price increases. ;-)
Just don't let anyone buy the Cryx battlebox, it sucks all the fun out of the game. :)
Heh, we went through a WMH phase here a few years ago, but it didn't stick. Not enough people tried it. I actually got more games of WM in during a two week business trip in Dallas a couple years ago than I got the whole time of trying to get people to play in Lansing.
Your salty tears only encourage me!
To everyone else: if you want to torment your friends, oversee a homemade slow grow league and take part...as Cryx.
I haven't kept up wth the game so much lately, are they OP right now?
I don't think the faction is overpowered, but the Cryx Battle Box is 14 points (average is 11) and includes a warcaster that's pretty difficult to deal with in low-point games. On the bright side, Orsson doesn't get to add much to his force come February. :)
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