No more assburgers

Hey, hey. It's okay. I'm sorry I punched out your wall and stole your candlesticks, guys. I put them back. No harm done. See?

I'll make it up to you, I swear. Do you like balloon animals? Here, I'll make you a nice little balloon doggie. Aren't they cute? Here, I'll tie a ribbon to it so you can hold onto it while you're walking around the park. There you go.

Whoops, wrong kind of balloon dog. Well, I'm a forum poster, not a magician. You get what you pay for. I'm off the clock in five and want my cig break. No redos.

The only good cop is a dread thread dead cop.

I should clarify: I'm really thinking here of developmental disorders like HFA, for which there is no "treatment", in the sense of cure, to be had; and no progressive course needing to be halted. There's really no danger when it comes to Asperger's diagnosis. It's not like people are going to start taking medication. In fact a degree of self-diagnosis, in the sense of noticing a problem and some of its general features, is pretty much a critical first step in getting a professional diagnosis - as you're unlikely to seek a professional diagnosis without at least an inkling of what is up. This is why awareness campaigns are so important, so people can spot early warning signs. I'm also wary of trusting entirely to professionals, who often aren't all that well informed themselves: I've spoken to several general practitioner doctors who have had ideas about AS and HFA which were dismissed as rubbish by psychologists I saw later. Had my circumstances been different and I trusted to the word of one GP, I might never have been diagnosed.

Plenty of mental health charities and bodies specialising in ASDs will tell you all about the diagnostic criteria and how you might or might not fit into them, and will encourage you to learn as much as possible about the condition, if only so you can make a better case for the need for a referral to a psychologist.

The kind of thing I'm talking about is simple self recognition that you have traits similar to those on the autistic spectrum, and then the use of simple self-help techniques in one's daily life to help cope with these, which don;t necessitate the involvement of the professional (as advisable as it might be, in a perfect world of easy availability of such things) any more than, say, taking on a new exercise regimen.

Obviously nobody should undergo treatments like medication on the basis of a self-diagnosis, but it's also hard to imagine how that would happen, unless you're ordering pills of the internet or something crazy.

Body Count's in the house.

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Yeah, you right, I couldn't come up with anything clever.

Well, I suppose if you're minded to be as unclever in your posts as I am, I can hardly stop you, disappointed though it may make me.

What the fuck happened to this thread? I leave for 3 hours and we go so far off the rails we careen into two other subforums. Or were we already in Santorum? I forget.

What. The. Fuck.

This thread was always in Santorum, in spirit.

If I was a gif I would find this very offensive

What you did there, I see it.

I didn't at first, but now... now I do. And it's delicious.

God damnit, I missed the move and accidentally posted in the sanctum santorum fr the first time. I feel dirty violated now.

The video not only works as a response to your post but as a fair representation of the Santorum on the whole.

All my spots are sensitive, it's a symptom of my assburgers.

Or, I dunno, we could have talked about how the industry is being run by the drug and insurance companies coupled with the fact that self-diagnosis is probably not always a good idea and see where that would take us?

That's too nice.

Ehhhhhh....sort of. Burgers can be and are made from pretty much anywhere, because it's just ground meat. The important thing about a delicious hamburger is the fat content. A cow's ass is kind of a working class neighborhood, so it's not as well marbled as some of the choicer cuts (the more work a muscle does, the more gnarly you can expect it to be and the less juicy). That said, it's a problem you can easily fix either by not aggressively trimming the cut before feeding it into the grinder or simply by adding in extra fat during the grinding process. Since steaks come from the middle part of the cow for the most part, the large deposit of meat that gets left on the end is generally directed to bulk use (grinding) where the fat content can be normalized or supplemented or rump roasts (the thing that you probably call pot roast that is not, in fact, a roast at all), which I honestly can't remember any recipe for that doesn't involve braising and gravy.

Informative AND a fine confirmation of Brian's prior diagnosis.

My ideal burger mixture is shortrib (FAT!), brisket (flavor!) and sirloin (more flavor).

If this forum is RevCo then it is the best forum.

The phenomenon people are railing against here isn't even limited to Asperger's, really. I've seen people put their Myers-Briggs type as a disclaimer for their behaviour, so if they're rude to you, well I guess you just have to deal with it, he warned you he was an INFP or whatever in his sig...

I've just seen people outright state that they're an asshole as a disclaimer for their behaviour, which... yeah.

*cough* brad wardell *cough*

"Hey, I'm really sensitive and considerate of the feelings of others, can't help if that makes me such a prick all the time."

I'm far more offended by the "No really, he's an awesome sweet dude in person, he's just a dick on the Internet" defense. Which has little to do with the thread's initial topic.

I will chime in on the related tangent of self-diagnosis! Don't. Just fucking don't. You can feel free to diagnose that something appears to be abnormal and you should see a doctor. But self diagnosis does more harm than good both from the high chance of misdiagnosis, and the inability to prescribe medication. And yeah, I know it's hard to get mental health issues worked on in the US. We're kind of shit at mental health care.

GRRRRR IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE AUTISM SPECTRUM.

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ASD, AN AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER.

YOU HAVE BEEN TROLLED BY ADREE. THIS IS FAR MORE EMBARRASSING THAN HAVING BUTTHOTDOGS OR WHATEVER.

But again, there IS no medication for autistic spectrum disorders. There may well be medications for comorbid anxiety and depression, sure, and if you have those that's something you definitely need a doctor for - I'm on antidepressants myself - but this concern that people will not get their medication through self-diagnosis is misplaced in this particular instance.

There's no pill that cures it, but I'm absolutely certain that there's medication for the various side issues present, and therapy for the immediate issues. Mostly because my fiance is dealing with all this, and the bills are pretty hefty for there being nothing you do after an ASD diagnosis other than shrug and deal with it.

TL;DR: There is no medication, but you can assume my post to mean "professional help" as in if you self diagnose you won't get therapy, medicine, or anything else to actually help your condition. There's a huge gulf between "I have ___ I totally read a book on it" and "I think I have ____, so I went to a professional to verify and follow through with the treatment options"

This is a tangent that has little to do with the DSM, and more to do with the seeming rise of self diagnosis via shit people read on the internet. And a healthy dose of every crazy ex I've had trying to diagnose me with autism, bipolar or any other number of things because they totally read an article that says if I'm being a dick I probably have ___. I'm actually just a dick.

For the record, there is no "autism medication," but there are a variety of compounds that can provide noticeable benefits in terms of behavior issues, mood swings, volatility, concentration, etc.

Listen, SIR, I'm here to make mock of GLUTEALCORNDOGS and the people who resemble them, not JIBBA JABBA about science or some shit.

Don't vaccines cause autism?

Only in indigo children.

So I looked that up...

The DSM-V no longer includes telepathic powers. They're now part of the psychic spectrum disorders.

Vaccines cause Newtypes.

Which makes them weak vs insectophile spectrum disorders.

Does this mean people are no longer capable of sperging out?

I have a friend who has (had?) genuine Asperger's and he would routinely tell people he was comfortable with to tell him if he was sperging out and he'd try and stop.

Hell no! Spergin' is the best verb and I'll be damned if the insurance magnate's taking it from me!

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