OH GOD THEY BROKE OUT OF THE WARSAW GHETTO ALERT THE PANZERS

I've seen that discussion and raise you this:


(Even if I have a strong feeling both sides will put aside their differences to turn against me instead)

They let ehm ecks post here. You can hardly be any worse.

The dude responsible for the Open Source Boob Project now gets published on sites like Jezebel occasionally. For writing about women in what at least some women think is not a wholly obnoxious and sexist manner.

I don't agree with them, but apparently some folks think he's learned.

Oh fuck, Ferrett. Back when I occasionally wrote for a Magic: The Gathering website (shut up, nerds), he was one of their featured writers. And he is pretty much the archetype for everything that is wrong with the internet. The guy is an absolute choad who caters to like-minded choads with zero self-esteem or self-respect. The kind of basement-dwelling nerd that validates all the stereotypes. If anyone needs to be staked and left out in the desert for the good of the masses, he's at the top of the list. An absolute waste of my good breathing oxygen.

Yeah, the piece they published was a long, rambling diatribe about how guys wouldn't like it if pretty women approached them every day in Starbucks and tried to convert them to Christianity so that's why women don't like it when guys approach them in Starbucks looking for sex.

It was a thing. That happened.

That was the same guy? That Starbucks essay was nonsensical AND offensive.

On the Sliding Scale of Skeeviness, he makes El Guapo look like Elyscape.

I read Jezebel mostly for the entertainment news and recaps of shows I don't watch, sometimes the product reviews. I don't consider it a feminist site by any means. I do get some car-wreck entertainment out of it, though.

Kotaku and io9 are both awful so I never even bothered giving Jezebel a go.

I'd love to get recommendations for other general women's interest type blogs that I could follow instead. There's a couple of actually feminist blogs I follow but they don't update often enough to keep up with my insatiable appetite for more content.

Jezebel is also awful. Your instincts have served you well.

I have a friend who used to follow all the Gawker sites for the sole purpose of annoying himself and getting riled up. And that's not even me sarcastically commenting on him reading them. He fully admitted that he read them just to get angry at really bad "journalism."

I skim Kotaku occasionally and I never thought it was particularly awful in the grand scheme of video game blogs. The comments, however...

I don't care for it but Slate runs Double X, you might look at that if you haven't.

I'll check it out!

See now we're getting somewhere

We'll use bill bec-de-bardiche glaive-guisarmes.

I think you're drifting into another sketch, sir.

You used a freaking semi-colon and you're worried your English sucks? You are the most adorable thing this side of my avatar.

As for your actual content, don't worry if you're posting a point you think someone else could make better. Think of it more like you planting the seed of a point, and if someone who might not have thought to make the point in the first place can expand on it, then forum teamwork wins again! I suspect you explain your points just fine, though. Buck up!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-

*coughs* I'm sorry but yes. You are simply too precious for words.

Yeah, Double X has a really mixed track record but as part of the Slate phone app, for instance, it's got good things from time to time without the more bullshitty stuff taking over (kind of like the rest of the app). Many of the good things on it are not really feminist except in a very broad sense, as in "happen to be written by or about women and that was where they got published for a variety of reasons having to do with the systemic biases in mainstream sites".

I had to consider how to reply to these without going too much into squee-territory so I'll simply say:

Thanks.

I'll try to see if I can't be a bit more confident in what I post.

I think the "we kick you in the balls to show you we like you" and the "we will mock you mercilessly for failing to write in prose worthy of publication" tendencies have been deliberately exaggerated for effect. The long memory hasn't.

The worst that will happen if you post with grammatical mistakes or the occasional emoticon is that people may not bother to pay attention to your stuff, or if they disagree with you, they may use the errors as part of their response. I'm not sure what would happen if someone routinely posted in netspeak since it doesn't seem to occur.

By they way if you haven't tried visiting the "January and Everything After" sections, check it out, if only for the long-running "Post your Pet" and "Cooking" threads. Posting a picture of your pet is a guaranteed way to boost your likes :D

mum, I volunteer my service as your flame shield, should you ever feel the need to squee. 'Cause I like ya (in a wholesome way).

Generally agree. The grammar thing can really get out of hand if you double down on the error or flaunt your disregard of it as appropriate for "just" the internet, though. Usually in awesome ways, but I'm sure they are uncomfortable for the recipients.

The long memory thing is also a feature, in my view, because it provides context in addition to the grudge fodder that's already been mentioned. It's really difficult to say how much bullshit that sort of long view on a post history heads off. One of the more mixed things that happened in the exodus was that many regulars changed their names (as did many Known Internet Idiots, but I digress). While I'm sure some people just wanted a fresh start or preferred a different nick, it's already happened to me on a number of occasions that a conversation would have been significantly different in good ways (either from giving more of a benefit of the doubt or just not bothering, for instance) with that additional context from the outset.

As many of us age, there's a lot of mellowing out and maturing that dulls the edge of the grudge aspect. But yeah, it's definitely still there.

I'm not sure it's wise to squee in general population here.

It isn't? Shit!

It's fine as long as you hold on to Soli-Chan or MulMizu's pocket to show you're rolling with them.

Unless you're a lop-eared bunny with a Santa hat. I should have made that clear.

What MrsWidget said is really true. By far, the majority of the old Qt3 grognards are genuinely nice people. Well, fairly nice. Dan's epic post on page 1 is a hilarious primer in the cultural differences between our two BF communities, but on an individual level, those of you who came here for the pigeons and the yaoi will likely find that in one-on-one interaction, they're not going to be huge assholes to you or anything. There are a handful who enjoy snarky internet personas, but they're just that, personas.

And this is a group that self-polices pretty effectively (albeit with unintended results at times) so despite all the comments about the hivemind, we rarely actually think in unison and will not dogpile you just because you're different. We're all different.

Nah. Stand on your own. You're the best! Arrrrround! No one's gonna ever keep ya down!

Also, don't ever use "defuse" when you mean "difuse," or vice versa. I will never live that down. Still haunts my dreams, in fact.

I'd never squee outside of my comfort zone. Perish the thought!

Contrition level: appropriate. Eligible for parole in 3847387 Lum-cycles.

You just had to link it, didn't you.

No, it's a Tom thing. A stupid Tom thing.

Yeah, I think Neopythia kind of fumbled the basketball into an autogoal there.