Police Militarization

Discussion in 'The Sanctum Santorum' started by Anti-Bunny, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. bengunn Hivemind Coordinator

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    Ohio
  2. Jag Level 90 Paladin

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    SoFla
    Holy crap. Cop should be tried for attempted murder!
  3. aaron Elitist Negative Nancy

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    Washington DC
    Guys, I think you're overreacting. I mean, he got a 3-day suspension. Isn't that punishment enough?
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  4. Warren I Pretty Much Live Here

    [sarcasm acknowledged]

    I propose an experiment. Go onto school property, demand children clean your car, tase a child, carry them to the principals office. 3 day suspension? Volunteers?*




    *who aren't cops
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  5. Jag Level 90 Paladin

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  6. Pogo Hard Cider Gal

  7. Omniscia Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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    Man, there's a lot of survivalist stuff on that site.
  8. Quitch Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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  9. Pogo Hard Cider Gal

    Yeah, sorry for giving that guy page hits.
  10. Omniscia Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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    Vermont
    Obama's Electricity Monopoly would be a good name for a band.
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  11. bago BERSERKER

    TK 421. Why aren't you at your post?
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  12. JoshV Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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  13. yamo Roughly Touched

    Is Dorner Special Forces?
  14. JoshV Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    No, just Navy Reserve. He does seem to be quite a gun nut though, and owns lots of legal weapons and even suppressors.

    I wonder how much of his manifesto is true, it sadly wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the bullshit he mentions actually occurred, though that in no means justifies going on a shooting spree.
  15. FrankA Elitist Negative Nancy

    Don't even get me started on this. They also mistake a bright blue Toyota Tundra for a dark grey Nissan Titan. Professional to the last.
  16. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    "I don't trust the cops at all" is often the best course of action. Christ.
  17. FrankA Elitist Negative Nancy

    "A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and used to show power. Police Officers do not carry a gun as a defensive weapon." - Ken James, Emeryville, CA Chief of Police.

    At least he's honest.
  18. MatthewF Elitist Negative Nancy

    Sigh.
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  19. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

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  20. quatoria Beardy Magnificence

    Er, are they just using drones with cameras to find him, or are we talking about a hellfire strike from 14,000 feet? The latter seems... awfully unlikely.
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  21. Lhowon Hard Cider Gal

    Drones for surveillance don't bother me in principle, any more than using helicopters with thermographic cameras does, but the likely applications of them do. Helicopters are expensive - sending one up to search for a fugitive, follow a police chase, get surveillance on a potentially dangerous situation, and so on, are all worth doing, but they aren't really practical for mass round-the-clock surveillance. Drones are much better suited for the latter. If drones are restricted for use in the former type of instances, in other words for an explicit and limited purpose, then that's okay. Inevitable even. But who seriously believes police in a place like the US won't use them, if given the chance, both for mass surveillance and targeted surveillance of individuals not suspected of any real crime? And given what they seem to get away with already, who can be sure they won't be given that chance?
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  22. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

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    It's LAPD. Them getting Hellfire strike capability is totally plausible.
  23. quatoria Beardy Magnificence

    Oh, sure. Of all the agencies in the country, the LAPD are totally the ones I'd trust with a missile launch capability, what with their reputation for discretion, even-handedness, and reasonable, proportional response.
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  24. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

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    Trying to wrap my head around this. I found this video via Facebook, someone linking to a Dailymail article, which was sourcing INFOWARS.

    And yet...seems legit. Not sarcastically.

  25. Elyscape Already Beat BF's New Expansion

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    wat
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  26. Pogo Hard Cider Gal

  27. scuzz Oh, Come On


    And your a genius.
  28. JoshV Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Did you just respond to like the first page of the thread?
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  29. Pogo Hard Cider Gal

    I was gonna say it was made on January 12, before seeing that it was made in 2012.
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  30. Jam Armchair Designer

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    Congratulations on shooting yourself in the foot. It's ironic but thematic for the thread.
  31. scuzz Oh, Come On


    okay...I missed the 2012. And it is taking me a long time to get used to the 2013 thing.
  32. quatoria Beardy Magnificence

    And the 'difference between you're and your' thing. Don't worry, you've got another year to work on it, though.
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  33. Pogo Hard Cider Gal

    It's cool man I responded to a 1st-page post in the gun thread and only one person noticed.
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  34. Lizard_King Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    Officer of the Year:
    The sequence of events would be comical in fiction.
    These fucking amateurs.
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  35. quatoria Beardy Magnificence

    Wow. Their claim is that two unarmed and sober men charged a police SWAT team after being flashbanged twice, grabbed at his shield and tried to pull away his gun, when it 'accidentally' went off, and that the guy with the assault rifle 'fired but didn't hit anything'. AND THEY'RE NOT IN FUCKING JAIL. This is what police officers can do in this nation. They can break into your home and murder you, with or without the flimsiest tissue of justification, and they will never face a single personal consequence. This is where we're at right now. Lizard_King wasn't being sarcastic with his titling of the post, the guy who lead the death squad was given the Officer of the Year award for walking into the shrapnel of their own fucking flash bang and not knowing the difference between that and gunshots.
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  36. Sheepherder Armchair Designer

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    I went and read the article because it was only implied in what you had quoted what he had been hit by.

    I'm sort of curious now as to what they were hoping to achieve by having a second team lob flashbangs in while the first team entered.
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  37. quatoria Beardy Magnificence

    Plausible deniability?
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  38. Lizard_King Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    I assume it's pure tactical ignorance on display for the nth time in police actions, and in fact that none of this would have come to light as anything but justifiable shooting of menacing porn addicts without the video. To be fair, a good amount of that kind of dumb bullshit happens in the military as well, it just never gets reported unless they really get out of hand.
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