Discussion in 'The Sanctum Santorum' started by Otterloop, Oct 25, 2012.
It's unnecessary, though. It's not outright toxic like the others are, but it's still extraneous.
Heh - I like the Winnie the Pooh one. Made me smile at least.
So, you use "honeypot" as an euphemism, too?
Honeypot as in the lady was a honey trap. Or could be. I guess. I liked it.
You don't like that one of the ladies is practically dry humping the table? :C
Should I have added a label for "bathroom stall"?
e: And have a cartoon -
It IS a pretty sexy table ...
That is spot on. I don't think I'll be able to look at a Day by Day now without thinking of the artist and the writer being two different poeple at each other's throats.
Sometimes you guys really go overboard on hating the labels. The only one in that tower one that is truly egregious is the GOP banner (the elephants convey that part fine.) I think with no labels at all that cartoon would be fairly impenetrable in meaning for a lot of people.
Also they're just part of the form, much like a guitar solo in an 80s power ballad. Sure, you could take it out, but it just wouldn't be the same.
Maybe with no labels at all the cartoon would be impenetrable to some, but "Anti-immigrant rhetoric"? Really? There's already a No Amnesty sign. It doesn't need both.
Well, if nothing else the "hispanics" label is completely unnecessary, given the elephants talk about 'support from the minorities' and the need for outreach as result like, right in the previous panel...
But if he didn't label them, he'd have to draw them with sombreros and ponchos and bags of oranges in order to stay in the spirit of political cartoon making! I guess the one guy has a moustache. Still, I'll take the label.
Labels only bug me when they're strange things that don't represent shit. The immigration comic seems to both label and make clear from shape and purpose. Some dude chugging from thirty bottles labeled after everything the cartoonist hates would just be stupid, though.
Mostly this thread just makes me think Otterloop is completely insane for actually reading all these.
...and in so doing, knocked at least two glasses of wine off the table!
"Oh god now she's eating glass!!!"
That Day by Day anatomy is really fucking with me. It needs to go in the bad comic art thread.
It makes no sense and I want to punch the person who drew them.
Must've taken anatomy lessons from Greg Land.
I'm still digging the terrible tattoos one of them has.
I'm just digging, then I'm going to throw all my devices in the hole and fill it in in an attempt to stop my brain trying to escape out of my nose and try drown itself in the toilet rather than have to try and fathom another one of those cartoons.
First panel not so much, second panel literally true.
Ummm...the point is Clinton DID, eventually, tell the truth...that's why he was in trouble for the previou-you know what? Forget it. Instead:
You don't deserve anything but double middle fingers McCoy.
Speaking of shitty McCoys: GARY McCoy hasn't been heard from since his "Romney Wins!" comic.
Name the last soldier to die for any of my rights.
Also: This guy just spent the last week saying "Democracy SUCKS!"
"FLIP-FLOPPING" AND "CHANGING" ARE TWO DIFFERENT GOD DAMNED THINGS
"N-no it is YOU who is in the bubble!!"
"Majority say the U.S. is on the wrong track"
Allie is literally saying white people are right by virtue of being white.
The white male conservative's black male conservative mouthpiece talks to a black female liberal about how terrible Obama is while his white female conservative breasts breasts breasts on.
"Obama phones are for S--------- underwater."
This is gonna be despicable isn't it?
Obamaphones are for what underwater?
10 letters(?) starts with s... i got nothin'.
And, just a reminder, Day by Day is a webcomic ONLY. Which means there is no reason this comic, which occasionally showcases full frontal female nudity, needs to be censored. Or in "newspaper comic" panel style.
It's totally lightning bolt dollar sign asterisks Saturn exclamation mark.
I'm going with "smart people who understand that cel phones were actually pretty fucking useful in the aftermath of disasters"
Maybe I'm reading too much into Day by Day, though. It's an arguably better comic when it's left to the reader to make the point.
Is that Bill Clinton or Jay Leno? I AM LOST WITHOUT LABELS!!!!!!!
I find it amusing that people still go on about Clinton getting away with it after we found out that Gingrich had something on the side during the whole affair. The comic would be accurate to the idea of "if you have an affair in office, only your shame forces you out" given the number of sex scandals politicians get into.
Clintons affair had a lot more then just the affair, it was having it with an intern, lying about it under oath, ect
(response to Brett)
Mustn't forget about all that etc going on.
Jury is probably still out on Sandy, but cell networks went down during 9/11, mostly due to load. First everyone who saw [big incident] calls 911, then they call their relatives, and then because they got disconnected they keep redialing because cellphones are witchcraft.
Sandy might be an interesting case study, because the damage occurred over a longer length of time, over a wider area, and with more SMS capable phones in the hands of consumers.
Alot of the cell sites lost power, and the battery backup only lasts so long, not a few days/weeks.
We actually deployed generators to power some cell sites here in PA. where power was out.
In Manhattan our cell coverage went at about the same time as the power, so they weren't super useful. I dunno about how they were in other parts of NYC because the other parts I rambled to had power.
In general though giving poor people phones is a fucking amazing decision. There are tons of studies about the massive economic impact of internet capable cell phones on poor communities in developing African nations.
My Plain Old Copper landline was the only working landline phone in my neighborhood during the two-week outage this month (the rest had Cable or Fiber-Optic lines).
The cell service was spotty as all hell during the first week too - without the copper landline I would've been SOL if I had to contact someone in an emergency.
IIRC from the DC side of 9/11, the big story was actually that blackberries still did email well, and were used to locate survivors. It's not just the phone calls, it's the emergency location abilities when you get the towers back up. It's crazy useful to have everyone running around with relatively accurate GPS information pinned to their sides.
The system dying under load doesn't seem much of a story, since landlines and cel systems die under load pretty much every Christmas. Our systems have never been able to handle burst capacity well.
edit: and yeah dtolman: all the VOIP stuff is pretty much useless in a disaster since it actually requires power compared to old copper landlines. The battery backups last what, 8-24 hours?
The lying under oath was simply because he was being asked about it in violation of pretty much every thinking person's understanding of the law. I discount it entirely because if I put anyone under oath and asked them random questions about their person life for days I'd both be kicked out of the room by the judge, and probably get them to commit perjury.
My point is: Clinton isn't the only person in DC who cheated, got caught, and didn't resign. Running to the Clinton well is pretty much completely ignoring that it's a DC problem, not a Clinton problem.
I'm just catching up on this thread, but I want to add my two cents to the argument from the last page: Ramirez is not a good artist. He's not a decent artist. His caricatures don't even look close to the people they're supposed to represent, and barely even look human. You only recognize them because of context. Anything in his cartoons that looks well-drawn is just slavishly copied from photo references, as is evidenced by the HUGE disparity in detail and style between things like helicopters and cars, and humans. I have no doubt that, given a little time, I could get his art style down pat. Worm people, photo references, and some heavy-handed (and sloppy, and uninteresting) cross-hatching. Oh, and that shitty lettering he loves so much.
And that's why I do this: the more people I spread the hate to the more likely someone will actually meet one of these doucheasters and punch them roundly in the face.
Count me in.
Day By Day guy especially- what, white chick is gloating about her friends getting hit by a storm? watching it on a computer?
She's happy about it? It's Obama's fault?
She's looking at a computer as the events unfold, waiting for her man to come back and tell her what to think. Having opinions is above her pay grade.
Won't lie, I'd totally like to punch the Day by Day guy in the face.
Black mouthpiece is a super famous internet blogger who frequently uses his friend 's wife's stepfather's connection to get interviews with the President during which he spends the entire time getting in sick burn after sick burn while Obama gets increasingly confused and helpless. He's currently internet live blogging from Sandy struck areas to report on how terrible Obama is while his friend's wife strikes "sexy" poses by the streaming computer.
And yes, friend's wife is gloating like a motherfuck because she knows that those flood waters (which still haven't receeded??) would never have been any problem for President Romn-urk, President Romn-urk. I can't. For President Anybody But Obama and the Free Market which is helpless because it can't charge gouging prices.
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