Discussion in 'January And Everything After' started by Creole Ned, Jan 7, 2012.
Pedant is someone else's job description here.
Well to be fair, I do have HRMBLARGH for that. ;;>..> I just haven't finished typing up a post.
And it is rather troubling un. But yeap, WATCH OUT FOR THOSE BOOKS. THEY'LL TAKE YOUR SOUL.
....You know.... I certainly wouldn't be adverse to seeing an LP of the Etrian Odyssey games, and I'm sure I'm not the only poster who'd appreciate that... *hint, hint*
Is that a threat or an invitation?
Why can't it be both? ;D
Hahahahahahaha *is promptly flattened* Uh, so I have 3 LPs already. One of which I ought to remake the thread. I think if I were to do something it'd be a journal log ish thing, hardly fit for BF eyes. I'll probably throw it in the other forum to languish for many months un. The one I currently have is Drowned Labyrinth btw.
But, but... Papa Nito loves you! Look, he's making a little heart with his bony skeletal hands!
Truth be told, Papa Nito is awesomesauce.
Maybe the Kool-Aid Man is the pitcher but the Kool-Aid inside is sentient and keeps forcing the pitcher into walls in a desperate bid to break him and be free?
Also: Twinky the Kid, the M&M characters, the Fry Guys from McDonalds are selling out their people and also off topic but, in any other world, the Hamburgler would be a freedom fighter heroically freeing citizens about to be executed.
I set aside my ear buds and borrowed a pair of legit headphones.
They're so cozy.
Why have I never bought a pair like this...?
I don't know why the hell you started thinking about this, but please continue.
what did i just finish watching
why am i so perplexed
It's a disney commercial branded with HHI. Which I wouldn't mind if it had any soul whatsoever, or any of the spark and reality tv flash that show generally has. Instead everyone involved either sucked at acting or was just phoning it in.
Christmas lights are up! No one died!
Ah, hell. Does this mean I have to be up all night talking to that Ebenezer grouch? I hate that guy!
Basic functionality restored, but last night was scary. This is ridiculous. If the radiologist calls back on/by Tuesday with another "we found nothing abnormal," I'm going to scream. I'd just throw up my hands and live with it at this point, but the pain is in a region that gets a lot of use on a daily basis, and at some point I'd like to be able to sit up or consume food or have relations with my boyfriend without heavy painkillers.
And my mother's keeping this a secret from my dad, who's still asking when I'm coming home for Christmas?
i am holding you and i will never stop ten thousand sympathy likes
Seriously, girl, you and I need to get together for drinks and cute animal pictures. After the holidays, let's do this. <3
Girl, you know I'm down~ <3
Sometimes I wish you could 'like' PMs.
Post the contents here, I'll like it for you. Be sure not to leave out any explicit details.
Especially that bit about the goat.
The goat was fine. I think he liked it.
Holy fuck. I really wish I could give you more than one sympathy like, SWB. This is absolute bull that you're still having to deal with this.
Legitimately too afraid/anxious to say anything now.
The Seattle Times is doing a series on elephants in US zoos. It pretty much seems like the idea of keeping them in captivity is well past any justification.
I'm glad my parents had the good sense to move south before settling down and having a family, because damn, where my family's from:
Could be worse, could be Tromsø:
But I like sola :(
I didn't check the English version, but I'm going to pretend that they translated that to "It is the time of darkness..."
And next comes the study on sculptures in museums - why should they be kept there instead of out in a quarry somewhere?
In less flippant fashion - captivity is not cruelty. Neglect and mistreatment are one thing, but the pervasive concept of "How dare you take this majestic wild animal and place it somewhere else so that humans (you know, masters of the planet, top of the food chain, what we say goes until someone else invents the internet) can view it for entertainment and/or education" just strikes me as idiotic. "How dare you put that animal in a cage!" makes as much sense to me as "How dare you put that lettuce in your salad!"
You could at least link to the article.
It seems much more like an indictment of a specific Zoo's program (Woodland Park) than Zoos in general.
I do love the irony though, this is the same newspaper that was covering the shit out of the baby story at the time.
I thought you were kidding about the sculptures but apparently not. I'll agree that captivity is not necessarily cruelty, the reason, intention and of course conditions an animal is kept in are all factors. However, an animal is not the same as a piece of rock and morality is very much in play in how they're treated. Being top of the food chain doesn't absolve us for mistreatment of other living things. There are reasons there are animal cruelty laws.
Yes. LIBERALS. AMIRITE GUYS?
That's why I said that abuse and neglect and mistreatment are wrong. I do not consider captivity in and of itself to be mistreatment. Reason and intention are irrelevant, and yes, animals are on the same scale as vegetables and rocks until they are sapient. They're tools to be used. That being said, we have a moral obligation to use tools responsibly and not wastefully.
You're contradicting yourself. I can neglect and do whatever I want to rocks without any moral issues, I cannot do the same to an animal. Therefore animals are not on the same scale as rocks. If they were there'd be an argument for supporting rock cruelty laws.
Your comment about a moral obligation to use tools responsible and not wastefully is poppycock, I can do what I like with a hammer and render it useless if I choose without crossing any moral boundaries. I cannot render a dog, horse or other animal useless (by say cutting off it's legs) without committing a rather unconscionable immoral act. Captivity can be detrimental to an animal in and of itself therefore captivity can be immoral.
As in "you are wrong". Morality only applies between sapient beings. An animal has no more inherent morality than the weather, and thus is owed none.
EDIT: Our moral obligation to not be wasteful with our resources, which animals are one of, is an obligation to ourselves. Don't waste that elephant without a good reason, you may need that elephant later.
Nute, I don't like you very much right now.
Do you have pets? Do you hold them in higher regard than your houseplants? Why?
It was pointed out to me that I have the same style of beard as Varg Vikernes.
I don't know how to feel about this.
Challenge him to a duel to the death. It's the only way to be sure.
Separate names with a comma.