Discussion in 'PC/Console Game Discussion' started by Adree, Apr 24, 2012.
But it wasn't necessary, it was wasteful and dangerous.
Actually I chose no and Lee then vocalized exactly what I was thinking - shooting someone changes you. It's not something you should get too used to doing.
We're spoiler tagging now? Fine, fine.
And yeah, the figure was closer to 70% for me, too, when I finished it last weekend.
It's almost as if there is no right answer! DAMN YOU VIDYAGAMES
But there is a right answer, Adree, and 70% of us knew it.
I was just trying to be nice :<
I'm playing again on XBL so maybe I can bump that number down a bit more.
There was more than a little of that in the fifth episode. For instance, I'm not sure what Sean and Jake and the rest were thinking with respect to the arm. That's a no-brainer. If you accept the conjecture that the Venn diagram of people who played the game and people who consumed the property in other media (particularly television) is basically a circle, even if you accept that the characters themselves might not know whether or not that's a good idea, I know, as the person making the decisions, that it is. I further know that it actually worked on television. Hell - the first thing that I thought after the inciting event was, "Yo - I wanna Kirkman handjob right now." It also might have been nice if at least once telling the truth actually turned out to burn you in some significant way, which I don't remember happening. I thought that the game did a much better job in that regard in the other episodes. Well, except the first one, which had the biggest miss of those lopsided decisions if I remember correctly, and that was entirely the writers' fault for disproportionately handing out screen time.
Oh, I cut that sucker off (or rather, I had Christa do it) because I wanted to see what would happen. It was gruesome.
It's what makes it such a great game. When you find yourself justifying your actions, that's when choice has worked.
Pretty sure you meant that.
So my steam WD game decided to reset itself to default settings and eat all the save files. Lost my ch.4 and wife's ch.3 games. None of the fan save-file fixes I've found worked.
Pretty unhappy right now :(
Man, great game, even if the choices are sometimes more illusory than what I would've liked, I wish there was a 'skip' button though. Thematically I understand why, but for additional playthroughs, I find it's absence annoying. Or is it just some crazy undocumented key some where? At the least, I'd like to have it unlocked on multiple playthroughs.
EDIT: Also fuck Ben, guy just fails at everything you ever ask him to do, repeatedly.
So I'm a bit curious, what is the 'best' ending, I'm assuming that would probably be getting the largest amount of people to survive. And then, what's the worst ending, can you get everyone killed?
I don't think you can save any more or fewer people. It's just a matter of when they die or otherwise exit the story.
While I think there is always the 'exit the story' railroading thing, how they exit the story is what I'm interested in:
Dunno, maybe. In Lilly's specific case, I think she goes on to show up in The Walking Dead comic, so she survives no matter what. ...Or does the game take place after that part of the comic?
This takes place before her comic book appearances, just as Glenn's appearance takes place before his comic book appearance.
Edit: Actually, it appears that the video game Lilly is no longer meant to be the same person as the comic book Lilly. Telltale changed the achievement that said 'Woodbury bound' to 'What now?' and removed all references on their site which suggested she was from the comics.
I don't really understand how the zombies work. Presumably they need to eat (human flesh only, it seems like) to generate energy to move around. And when a living person gets caught by zombies, the zombies all start chowing down. There are lots of zombies, so presumably most of the edible flesh is going to get eaten (although maybe the zombie disease makes it inedible really fast?). But for the most part, the zombies have the majority of their flesh intact. Some of these are people who died and got zombiefied without being eaten, but that can't explain that many of them.
How do other zombie stories explain this? I know sometimes they only want to eat brains, which would leave the body intact (although it would be hard to eat a brain without also destroying the face's ability to eat after getting zombiefied). And sometimes dark magic, although it seems everyone wants to explain it through science recently.
I also don't understand why being bitten matters if everyone is already infected with the zombie disease. Oh no, more zombie disease.
I guess this is a large part of why I avoid zombie stories. I like the game as a post-apocalyptic story, but the zombie stuff is all kinda dumb.
A wizard did it.
The first part you mention is the failing of many zombie stories, not just The Walking Dead. I presume that in this universe, people who have been eaten can return as zombies as long as their brain remains intact. Brie in Episode 4 gets devoured, but she reappears in Episode 5 as a walker (I don't recall how damaged her undead body was in the later episode). But the line between being devoured and turning remains fairly unclear.
Being bitten matters even if everyone has the potential to turn. Bites are a death sentence: no solution cures a bite from a walker. The wound very rapidly drains your energy and causes you to fall into a stupor. Eventually, you'll die -- and we all know what happens after you die. We see this with Duck and, much more personally, Lee. Once you're bitten, wrap up any loose strings. You only have a day.
It's actually why I chose to keep my arm. I didn't expect to survive. I may very well need both limbs to ensure Clementine's safety. I'm already sentenced.
Wait - there's an entity playing the game that hasn't consumed the property in other media?
Show and book both pretty clearly establishes that cutting off a bite immediately will save your life. I assumed this was why the decision was so heavily lopsided in the final statistics.
Huh. That would have altered my decision, although the amputation happens presumably a few hours before the bite.
With all the positive buzz and GOTY hype the game is getting, I assume there will be a lot of people that this is the case for. I have no interest in the show or comic book.
The walking dead zombies eat anything, not just humans or brains. In the game they come across dead animals while hunting, in the TV and comic, the horse gets eaten. It's partially why the normal humans are low on food. The big thing with walking dead zombies, is that the bite is not what turns you, it's just venomous, and and will kill the person, which brings them back as a zombie.
Now, that being said, you can't think too hard when it comes to zombies, because a lot of suspension of belief has to happen for them to work. Everything from the physics of the human jaw not allowing them to bite with any real strength, to the fact that the zombies would quickly decay, especially in those hot southern climates, or freeze as soon as they got to a cold climate. A world that gets taken over by zombies is always a bit far-fetched, a scenario where someone has to get out fast of an area because of a zombie outbreak always made more sense to me. But most good zombie stories aren't about the zombies anyway, it's just an excuse for a societal break down / post apocalyptic story, with the ugliness of human nature laid bare, but with an ongoing 'we're all doomed' aesthetic with the ever present threat of zombies at your doorstep.
The show really is terrible, it's one of the ones where I yell at the TV because the characters are just that stupid, but the comic is actually pretty good. It's not amazing, but it's a good read. Granted, I've fallen out of habit, and haven't kept up on it, so it's current quality may have degraded.
Oh, I didn't remember them eating animals, but I believe you that it happened. You definitely don't see much in the way of animals running around (except birds), so that makes sense.
The weirdest bit is that I could swear that before I fell off the comics, there was something about how the zombies would freeze over the winter or something. Maybe I'm just making that up. Kirkman plays a little fast and loose with things sometimes.
It was in the very early part of episode 2 of the game, where you're with the new guy from the commissary, out hunting. I think that's the only time it's really mentioned, so easy to miss. And in other zombie mythologies, animals are ignored, like in the remake of Dawn of the Dead. (A decent film, and you'll never see that guy from Modern Family quite the same way ever again)
Agree about the comic book. I've fallen a bit behind, but it's pretty good. I will offer the warning, though, that the comic is more bleak and gut punchy than the game. WAY more in a few places. And it occasionally devolves into body horror type stuff in a more severe way than the game.
And if you want something that takes a slightly more realistic view of a zombie apocalypse, try The Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks. He addresses stuff like decaying bodies, freezing temperature, and the like and extrapolates things. It's basically a nonfiction book set in a fictional world where zombies are real.
I watched 2 episodes of the show and have read none of the comics. This game makes me want to experience both, though the second episode of Walking Dead was pretty lame, IMO.
Tell that to Allen.
The game is superior to either. It is the best representation of this IP.
Don't bother with the TV series, it's a vastly inferior retelling of the comics. The comics are good fun and if you liked the game there's a good chance you'll like them to, but the father/son relationship is vastly inferior to Lee/Clem. I would agree that the game is the best representation of the IP, but I think there's still enjoyment to be had from the comics.
Did Kirkman ever explain why that worked for Dale but not him?
....he asked knowing to a near-certainty that that's just not how comics work.
To be fair, I think Rick probably just did a botch job on Allen.
What happens with The Stranger if you choose not to loot the station wagon?
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