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Title IX for students with disabilities

Discussion in 'Debate and Discussion' started by Anders Hallin, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. Anders Hallin Despondent Fancybear

    Location:
    Stockholm
    Good news! However, get ready for the right to freak out and probably start moping about Title IX again.

    http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/letters/colleague-201301-504.html
    http://www.adaptedsports.org/adaptedsports/media/pr_54.html
    And finally a CNN link because it has a comment section.
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  2. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    I'll admit, I never in a million years thought anyone would react to this like, well, they did.
  3. extarbags Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    Comment section highlights:

    Yeah, what's with treating disabled people like people, when what we should really be doing is stopping them from being born?

    Uh, no, I'm pretty sure the kids without disabilities do not by and large feel that way. Don't worry though, another commenter is on the case and ready to address everything wrong with this post:

    HAW HAW HAW

    See guys, they have a disability, and disabled people only deserve to be [implicitly subhuman] janitors, so what's the point? Honestly, why do they even get to go to school?

    Sub. Human.

    This one is uh... neat. Taking a break from complaining about invalids to expose the real villains: women (as usual) who plot and scheme to make boys play sports and something something something.

    A few more, presented without comment:

    And the winner:

  4. Vesper Level 90 Paladin

    Location:
    Waukesha, WI
    This kind of attitude pisses me off. As the dad of a Title IX 7 year old (aspergers, motor delays, ADHD) I can tell you the thing he wants most is to be included. These kids have a rough enough life without having to deal with people thinking "they'll never amount to anything" and "why bother letting them participate?"

    As an aside, I don't think there is something in modern society causing more disabilities (EVIL VACCINES!), it's just that we are much better at diagnosing and treating rather than labeling kids as "difficult."
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  5. Shake Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Location:
    Vashon, WA
    How do these people even find places to shit up? Some asshole blogger is mad about it and links it? WHY WOULD ANYONE COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS?!
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  6. Kildorn Beardy Magnificence

    Location:
    Boston, MA
    Wait, what? Someone so MRA that they think women are in some secret cabal to prevent us from being bookish?

    What the hell, crazy person?
  7. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    I do wonder what sort of ideal schooling environment these commentators picture. I'm thinking fascist work camps.
  8. Jethro This Is SEWIOUS

    Location:
    Mayberry, IA
    I wonder how this will work in practice? For example, a kid in a wheelchair, how do you arrange for him to play football or basketball or baseball?
  9. Anders Hallin Despondent Fancybear

    Location:
    Stockholm
    You don't.
  10. Jethro This Is SEWIOUS

    Location:
    Mayberry, IA
    So what do we see happening in schools as a result of this? I can't imagine there being enough disabled kids in schools to create special leagues, and I can't see how a kid in a wheelchair, for example, can compete in a standard league/team. Lesser disabilities, such as lack of hearing, I could see things enabling them.

    BTW, lest I come across wrong, I am all in favor of inclusion of every kid in every way possible in school and elsewhere. One of my three kids had some special issues. I'm just thinking in terms of "hmmm, how do you do this?"
  11. Anders Hallin Despondent Fancybear

    Location:
    Stockholm
    Apart from pushing for individual sports which there is room for together with the existing sports teams (mostly track, swimming, and gymnastics), I can imagine cooperation with local sports clubs for people with disabilities, as well as banding together with nearby school/districts to create critical mass for a viable programme. The obvious problem is of course distance when doing the latter.
  12. Jethro This Is SEWIOUS

    Location:
    Mayberry, IA
    Yeah, when we were in Chicago I could see it being a lot easier than trying to do that in a more rural area such as where we live today. When I played football and baseball in high school our team trainer (the "waterboy" but he did a lot more than that) was a guy in a wheelchair. So he was at practice, the team loved the guy and his attitude, he was in the locker room with us, on the sidelines during games, basically part of the team except for he didn't play. We even made sure he got a letter jacket. I also played soccer at the college level, and we had a player on the team who was deaf. Really good player, and we used hand signals for him for some things. I do remember a couple of times when he didn't hear the whistle and tackled someone after the whistle was blown! After that, we would raise our hands in a certain way when the ref blew his whistle so he could see.

    But again, I think in large areas like Chicago, Houston, etc. this could be pretty doable, but more a challenge in areas where the total high school population is 500 and the town is only 10,000 and there is a low density of schools.
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  13. Sjofn Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    California
    That one is fucking amazing.

    EDIT: It's particularly amazing to me, since usually the waily waily about Title IX is "boo hoo hoooooo, money that should be going to REAL SPORTS is being wasted on women playing sports!"
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