Gender discrimination still exists. Most people would not disagree with that (Rush Limbaugh excepted.) But every once in a while I am surprised at where and how it turns up. I'm the CTO for a company, and last week I held a people review meeting with my managers. As we were discussing various people, I noticed that a couple of female chemists were described, in their "things that need to be coached," as "bossy." As in "Janet is really good and gets her projects done on time, creative, but she can really come across as bossy in the lab." I noticed that a guy in the same lab was described as "a real driver." But this was a good thing. Everyone in the room nodded their heads in agreement on these (this was a discussion of about 120 people, FWIW, so a long couple of days.) So I asked them - why is Kelly "a driver" and Janet "bossy?" If Jane was a man, would we be describing her as a driver rather than bossy? And let's look at how we've described other women in the labs and whether we are doing the same thing. All the managers looked kinda sheepish, and we realized we'd done this in a couple of ways to several of our female chemists and engineers. These are good people, good managers, normally very sensitive to such things. And, oh, one of them is a woman. And she did the same thing. Yeah, gender discrimination exists, even among people who don't want to discriminate.