(Continuation of a wildly inappropriate discussion in the Random Thoughts thread. I cast summon Nute SuperJay OZ 4.0 jerri blank Ozzo Jibble Kalle TheTrunkDr QuantumBit Creole Ned shift6 Lhowon Rot U.S. Millie Ingmar Elyscape JoshV Aeon221 AaronSofaer whew that's a lot of summons hope I got everyone.) This post really confounds me. On the one hand, it seems completely clear at this point that you're definitely a robot, but on the other hand a robot should have a better grasp of logic than this. But here, I'll help you out: the first and most basic reason that it's not "simple logic" is that you moved the goalposts. While it is true that loving someone is, in a sense, based on what you get out of them (although this occurs at a brain chemistry level, which isn't really what you're talking about so you're not really right about that either), that isn't what you originally said or what jerri blank objected to. Rather, that post used the phrase "care about," which is a completely different thing. I care about billions of people I've never met and from whom I will never extract any utility at all. I care about people who haven't yet been born and who won't be until I'm long dead. Utility has nothing to do with it.