Vigilante Killing in Orlando

Discussion in 'The Sanctum Santorum' started by MrMolecule, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. Otterloop Beardy Magnificence

    The days of me getting all my news from the Today Show are certainly over!
    So the police know what the "suspicious character" looks like.

    Actually I'm sure the police would have just looked for the closest black guy anyway but you know what I mean
  2. Calistas Elitist Negative Nancy

    Oh, true. Good point!
  3. Bahimiron Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    The fully unedited version of the phone call actually has a little bit more from the disaptcher.

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  4. Rasputin Jim Armchair Designer

    And from there:
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  5. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Today's face-palm poll:

  6. Reene Hard Cider Gal

    wait wait, I know my surprised face is around here somewhere
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  7. Otterloop Beardy Magnificence

    There must be TONS of money and power in that 23%
  8. dartwick Roughly Touched

    Almost everyone(real people not TV people) agrees that the shooter did something wrong(even if it wasnt illegal.)

    The disagreement comes in when this is being hyped as a "race issue" when many people think it was actually a "scared, stupid, wanna be cop" issue.

    I personally hope the shooter spends some time in jail - but Im sick of the media being dishonest(old pictures and tricky edits) and Im sick of attention whores using the families grief and anger to to get attention.
  9. extarbags Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    It's both. Zimmerman seems likely to have been motivated at least partially by race, but even if he wasn't, the reluctance of the local police to prosecute him absolutely is about race in large part.

    The tricky edit thing is dumb, but it's also one instance and it's from the freaking Today show; if that bothers you I hope you're just as concerned about the kind of yellow journalism going on re: bat boy. As far as "old pictures" go, are you talking about the long-ago discredited "thug" pictures that were circulating via email forward and Fox News dipshits? And either way, does it matter? It's not dishonest to show whatever picture of the kid they feel like showing, because it doesn't change the story in the least.

    This bothers me when it happens with this kind of story, but I haven't really seen much of it with this one. To whatever extent it is happening, though, it's shitty, but also kind of inevitable. It doesn't discredit legitimate news coverage, in any case.
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  10. dartwick Roughly Touched

    Its is NOT comparable to bat boy.
    Bat boy was an obvious gag by a marginal rag. I had no respect for that paper but it doesnt bother me because that paper bore essentially no public trust. If anyone bought that paper(was it the "Star"?) it was for giggles and light reading.

    I a big proponent of good journalism and I believe in holding journalists to high standards. If a media source presents itself as a real news source we should call it out when it misrepresents.
  11. Otterloop Beardy Magnificence

    Oh Christ: Armed Neo-Nazis Now Patrolling Sanford, Say They Are "Prepared" For Post-Trayvon Martin Violence
  12. dartwick Roughly Touched

    Maybe some black panther will go fight them.
    It would be a total win as long as they didnt shoot any bystanders.
  13. Otterloop Beardy Magnificence

    Yeah, what problems CAN'T a race war solve?
  14. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
    Ferndale, MI
    RACE
    WAR
    UH
    WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
    ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING
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  15. Otterloop Beardy Magnificence

    Good God
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  16. RyanMM Magister Mundi Elyscape

    Location:
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  18. MrMolecule Armchair Designer

    Well, since this turned into the race thread...

    I linked to the Ta-nehisi piece rather than the original, because it sucks and is terrible.

    There is a fascination modern racists have with "straight talk" and "speaking the truth." I'm led to believe that it comes from a siege mentality ("Well, nobody else was saying it!") but it is absolutely infuriating to see someone purport to quantify the "impaired development" of an enormous swathe of the world population, stupid and useless as that may be, and then literally in the same article to write the sentence "in my experience, about 5% of blacks..." Why you gonna be a racist and then trip all over yourself in the same paragraph?
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  19. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    The thing I find hilarious is that Derbyshire has been almost saying something this out-and-out racist for years. It's like he finally got old enough to not care anymore.
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  20. extarbags Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    I especially like the way she says "National Socialist" and clearly doesn't know what the short name for that phrase is.
  21. extarbags Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    Hey, it's kind of refreshing to see that kind of honesty at least. Normally racists start sentences with "I'm not racist, but..." so it's kind of nice to see one lead off with "I'm racist, and..." for a change.

    Edit: wait, the "I'm a racist" quote is from 2003? lol, I guess... why is he still published, even in the NR?
  22. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    For a long time he was like Charles Murray - clearly racist to anyone who wasn't a Republican, but not so blatantly obvious or foten that Republicans have to disown him. His new article, uh, changed that.

    Alternatively, they may have just fired him for using his NRO association to get traffic elsewhere on a (competing?) paleocon website. Not sure, hard to read the tea leaves.
  23. Rasputin Jim Armchair Designer

    Because of your last sentence, I am going to hear Mordin from Mass Effect's voice when reading your posts from now on.
  24. MrMolecule Armchair Designer

    "I was involved in a life altering event. Paypal button is down below."

    Georgie Z launches his own 90s era web page, with shitty American flag banners and a tasteful quote from a wonderful philosopher.

    Mmm, yes. Quite.

    The page includes links to "The Facts" (broken link), "My Race" (lulz), and an "Album" where he posts a picture of the "Long Live Zimmerman" tagged onto the side of an OSU building. There's a contact page fishing for personal info, to, although I don't know if he'll actually try to use it to sue or not.
    Indeed.
  25. MatthewF Elitist Negative Nancy

    Page is down, probably hammered to death by DDOS botnets... or maybe all those donations he's surely getting!
  26. Anti-Bunny Armchair Designer

    Location:
    Cape Girardeau, MO
    His lawyer should be punching him repeatedly, right now.
  27. Gx1080 Herpus Derpus

    Derbyshire isn't running new material:

  28. MrMolecule Armchair Designer

    Yes, hide behind Chris Rock. That makes it all okay, and you don't have to think or use your brain or anything.
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  29. Otterloop Beardy Magnificence

    I HATE Chris Rock for that routine. He became some sort of asshole bigot Prometheus.
  30. Gx1080 Herpus Derpus

    Me? I don't particulary care. Besides the morbid desire of a mess so big that will *finally* remove the air of moral supoeriority of the US.

    Or at least something that will make it stop telling the rest of the world what to do for 5 minutes.
  31. Otterloop Beardy Magnificence

    The irony! The!...just...irony...I...I I I I I I I I .....

    Daisy Daisy tell me your answer doooooo.......
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  32. Jag Level 90 Paladin

    Location:
    SoFla
    5 minutes ok, but you are so fucked in minute 6...
  33. maybe he followed it down the street and shot it
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  34. MrMolecule Armchair Designer

    LOL YEAH FUCK AMERIKKKUNTS AMRITE

    Since you're trolling, badly, I'm done. Someone else can respond to you. Or not, hopefully.
  35. extarbags Already Beat BF's New Expansion

    My favorite is that he felt the need to add an extra comma to that quote, I guess to make it match the rest of the site.

    Edit: hahaha, on the "Album" page he adds a comma in the middle of Henrik Ibsen's name. If I wasn't against that guy before, I sure as hell would be now.
  36. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Jesus, fuck the murder charges, execute him for that webpage.
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  37. Otterloop Beardy Magnificence

    "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"~Edmund Burke

    "All that is necessary for black people in hoodies to wander around is for manchildren to not hunt them down."~George Zimmerman
  38. Pogo Hard Cider Gal

    God damn, it really is awful.
  39. OZ 4.0 Despondent Fancybear

    Location:
    NJ
  40. MrMolecule Armchair Designer

    Apparently, he contacted both the prosecutor's office and...Sean Hannity. The lawyers have said he refused their advice and they cannot contact him.

    What do you think? Fast trip to Cuba? I hear it's nice this time of year.