Let's talk Super. Post anything and everything, like cool stuff you've found, any rare buys or repro buys you've done lately, and just general discussion stuff. How many of you out there are classic gamers? Anyone working on stuff right now? I'm (slowly) playing through Terranigma these days. Anyone else here into The Cover Project stuff?
This game was so great. The single player campaign was a little weak, but still pretty good. The multiplayer though, was amazing. My brother and I played endless battles against each other, with all the different mechs.
Ok I'm first of all going to link to the Legacy Music Hour yet again. Second, I do play a lot of classic games, but I'm more of a GENESIS 4 LYFE kind of guy. I have been meaning to play Terranigma though.
The Genesis was laughably inferior. In objective, technical ways, not just the selection of games, although I think that's true too. Some good exclusives on it, though. I liked Beyond Oasis. The SNES remains in my view the greatest console ever to exist, and home to the best game, Final Fantasy VI. Also home to the best Zelda game, fuck Ocarina. I am horrible about actually finishing games, but I've beaten Terranigma more than once. Absolutely top notch game.
Man, I wish Nintendo had a strict "no golf games" policy.* I'll give them the ridiculous censorship of Mortal Kombat and... I think it was Wolfenstein 3D, though. * Exception made for Kirby's Dream Course.
The SNES is technically inferior to the Genesis in some ways too. Also it came out two years later so it shouldn't really be a surprise that it was more technically advanced in general. Must we revive this decades-old battle even now? Both systems have tons of amazing exclusives.
I agree, the argument seems even more petty now. Though you totally made me think of: RWIIIIIISE FROM YOURRRR GWAAAVE.
Sega Genesis? More like Suck-a Geneshits. Seriously, though: This thread makes me want to replay Earthbound. Which is a problem, because I can't go past Stonehenge without getting a Sword of Kings. Do you know what you've done to me, you bastards?
Yeah, the Michael Jackson one is out of place. How could a fictional character possibly endorse something?
The EA franchises back then were exceptional, and much better on Genesis. NHL 94, Madden 94, Bill Walsh College Football were just fantastic, and there was really no comparison to the SNES versions (naturally this won't bother some people). Genesis also had the fun Joe Montana (very arcadey but entertaining, and the AI could put up a serious fight). Both consoles got Techmo Bowl sequeles and they were awesome too, though the SNES was shut out of the fascinating and underrated Techmo III Final Edition. Some of the "off-brand" SNES sports games were amazing. IT was weird playing in a huge floating blue arena of nothing, but the College Basketball game was awesome. Super Star Soccer was double plus awesome times awesome (and while Fifa was fun back then, it pailed in comparison). There's another sports game I loved that I can't recall off hand. For me, outside of the sports games, the SNES was the clear winner. It had some mixed-results JRPGs that at least tried to do some different and interesting things mechanically (Paladin;s quest, Lufia II, Seventh freaking Sign). I loved FF VI and Chrono Trigger. Super Mario RPG was pretty interesting too.
Oh man, I love the SNES. It's the only console I've ever owned, a few years before I discovered the majesty of PC gaming. Lots of good memories, definitely a fantastic machine. Super Mario World, Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VI are still some of my favorite games of all-time, and these are just a few of the many great games for the console.
That's not what it's called, but it's just as well because I'm afraid that I might have a seizure if I so much as saw the actual title in print. That game aside, JRPGs are a genre that the SNES obviously wins at. In fact, I think that's probably the biggest reason that a lot of people who still like playing games from that era consider the SNES the better console despite the sales at the time being very close (with the Genesis ultimately on top iirc). A lot of those people like JRPGs, and more importantly a lot of people who just like JRPGs and don't even necessarily have a particular tendency toward older games still end up playing SNES JRPGs either emulated or re-released, because it just so happens that 1990-1995 or so was kind of a golden age for JRPGs and they were almost all SNES exclusives. If I had to pick a genre other than sports that the Genesis clearly did better than the SNES I'd probably say shooters, but it's nowhere near as one-sided as JRPGs are in the other direction.
I think the "SNES > Genesis" sentiment is more than just JRPG nostalgia. The system was objectively more powerful than Genesis (which nevertheless had a bunch of amazing games) and the graphics have actually aged fairly well, if you can deal with 2d pixel art. If someone without a prior nostalgia bias wanted to pick up a 16 bit console on eBay, I'm pretty sure everyone here would recommend the SNES. Plus, sports games don't really age well compared to, well, any other genre. Interesting, I remember the SNES having better shooters. Although Steel Empires on the Genesis totally owns. Or at least it did 21(?) years ago. 21 years.... Ye gods!
To be clear I'm not talking about JRPG nostalgia. In fact, none of what I think about either system is nostalgia-based. What I mean is that the SNES has a very expansive catalog of widely-acknowledged great JRPGs, so people who like that kind of game especially naturally like a lot of the ones on the SNES. As I said above: I certainly don't think the graphics in Genesis games have aged any worse. I think the music has aged better. You'd be wrong about that, unless you aren't counting me in the everyone. Maybe I should have said side-scrolling action/shooter games because I don't mean the kind of shmup where you control a ship so much. I mean the likes of Atomic Runner and Gunstar Heroes.
Hey man, the OP is the one that just threw "anyone else into classic games" out there. I ain't takin' the rap for this derail.
Genesis had Phantasy Star II and Shining Force which are both superior RPGs. Super Zelda was probably the best game of the 16-bit generation, though. I had to borrow an SNES from another kid in school to play that. I let him borrow my Genesis in exchange. When our parents found out what we'd done they were furious.
Do a lot of people think this, or something like it? It's good but I don't think it would be in my top ten, probably not even top ten SNES specifically. Because your parents were right-thinking Genesis fans, no doubt. ;)
I'm reminded that a bunch of the SNES and NES games are out on Wiiware, which I've never actually used. I suppose I should plug-in my Wii, I'm tempted by Blaster Master Overdrive, at the very least.
A surprising number of Genesis games are too, actually. Kid Chameleon for one, which is probably the best 16-bit game you've never played.
Yeah, but 'technically inferior' in ways that don't count. Anyway, lets get some love up in here for Shadowrun on SNES:
Yep. The SNES game had a serious ambiance to it that a lot of games didn't manage in that generation. It felt *real*. It was pretty crazy. I tried the genesis one but it never clicked for me.
I liked both, but was a bit of a shadowrun nut back in the day. (And yes, I hated the Xbox shadowrun, dumbest idea, ever.)
The Genesis one looked like it would be more true to the game's RPG roots, but it was so hard to get started (oh, your Johnson gave you a ghoul bounty job? Enjoy your inevitable death) that I just never got deep into it. The Xbox Shadowrun was actually INCREDIBLY fun if you could bring yourself to get over the fact that it wasn't an RPG. I would not blame you if you could not get over that.
I played Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, and Final Fantasy 6 in the span of 6 months on the SNES. There hasn't been anywhere near the same streak of stellar JRPG greatest since.
