Zynga closes Boston office

Discussion in 'PC/Console Game Discussion' started by Dean, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. Dufresne Armchair Designer

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  2. Dufresne Armchair Designer

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    Aaand he's done for the day. Because he ran out of in-game energy, obviously. He blew a crap ton of saved-up Adventure Cash (the game's premium currency,) to play as long as he did today.

    He claims he's going to do this every day until the game shuts down, but I don't know if he has the persistence. He certainly doesn't have that cache of Adventure Cash anymore, so future sessions won't be nearly as long.
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  3. Dufresne Armchair Designer

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    So I'm officially making this the "Boston Studios Shutting Down" thread, because god damn it.
    Confirmed by friends of mine who worked there. I'm still looking for a job too, so in addition to feeling bad for my friends and everyone else there, now I'm worrying about this whole new batch of people looking for an ever-shrinking number of game dev jobs in the Boston area.
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  4. Hawkeye Fierce Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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    Ah shit. That sucks.
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  5. Equis Armchair Designer

    Man. What's going on in Boston?
  6. wallapuctus Oh, Come On

    Just throwing it out here that my company is still hiring devs, project managers and analysts. It not games, but it's work. PM if you want details.
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  7. Cubit I Pretty Much Live Here

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  8. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    God, finally. No idea what he was thinking working for those shitfaces.
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  9. Talisker Despondent Fancybear

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    "Why yes, I would like buckets full of money."
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  10. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Why not go work for an investment bank, then?
  11. Talisker Despondent Fancybear

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    Not seeing too many game developer positions posted at Goldman Sachs at the moment.
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  12. Tony M Oh, Come On

    One of these games is not like the others...
  13. Jason McCullough Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Working at Zynga wasn't developing games, either.
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  14. Cubit I Pretty Much Live Here

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    Reynolds wrote a goodbye letter:

    http://venturebeat.com/2013/02/01/brian-reynolds-on-zynga-games-and-the-future/
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  15. Reldan Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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    "Seemed" being the operative word from that sentence. Some part of me is just saddened that creating art is reduced to a comparison with forming a championship baseball team.
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  16. Flowers Despondent Fancybear

    If Brian Reynolds made a free to play game, I would buy it.

    MINDFREAK!
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  17. Talorc Worked The System

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    HALLO VENTURE CAPITALISTS I AM NOW ACCEPTING YOUR MONEYS FOR MY EXCITING NEW MOBILE START-UP.

    More seriously I think a lot of those old skool guys who cut their teeth back in the C-64 / Amiga / Atari / early IBM days of the late 80's / early 90s could do well in mobile / iOs. They had experience in how to achieve great games with a team of well under 10 people.

    Brian Reynolds, Richard Garriott, Julian Gollop and I am sure a bunch of others are all into it now, getting back to their entrepreneurial bedroom coding roots. Something good must come from at least one of them! For my money Gollop is quite likely to produce something interesting, followed by Brian Reynolds then Garriott. Although if Gariott manages to capture the pre Ultima 8 magic again, watch out it will be damn special.
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  18. Flowers Despondent Fancybear

    Ultima 8 was better than it was, just so you know.

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  19. Dufresne Armchair Designer

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    That's pretty much it. I didn't have any interaction with Reynolds personally, but there was an all-designers e-mail list that he and a lot of other designers would send e-mails to. Usually the conversations were lengthy e-mail chains complaining about PMs, and I remember during one particularly heated one, Reynolds sent out an e-mail implying that most of what he did at Zynga was design stuff he knew was crap but fit Zynga's model, and then grit his teeth and accept the fat paycheck. I think we all knew it was just a matter of time until he left at that point.
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  20. zabuni Oh, Come On

  21. Talorc Worked The System

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    That is actually much better than it has ever been and surprised the market, the shares jumped a fair way.

    Meanwhile off in "non-GAAP" fantasy land they made a profit. Nasdaq really needs some damn IFRS up in its market, yo.
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  22. Hawkeye Fierce Keeper of the Elemental Materials

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    So Zynga East (Baltimore) is gone now? How long til Zynga shutters completely?
  23. Dufresne Armchair Designer

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    Yep. Lots of talk about it on my Facebook feed today.

    I would expect the NY and Texas offices that they just "merged" to be shut down after not too long. They're making a concerted effort to bring everyone out to California under the direct control of the mothership.

    From what I hear from a friend who worked in the Baltimore office, just like in the Boston office very few people accepted Zynga's "offer" to reapply for positions in the SF office. I don't think they're learning that you can't expect people to try to cross a burning bridge.
  24. JoshV Keeper of the Elemental Materials

    Similar thing happened with Gazillion, they tried to relocate everyone to San Mateo, most people didn't take the offer. And that was a good thing, since they had more layoffs a few months later.
  25. Dean Despondent Fancybear

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  26. zabuni Oh, Come On

  27. Kalle Despondent Fancybear

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    Happy news for everyone.
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  28. quatoria Learned From Drunk Admins How To Shoot Vodka

    Except the employees, of course.
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  29. Dufresne Armchair Designer

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    Obviously a bunch of friends of mine who still worked there are without jobs now. Here's hoping they land on their feet, and that the rest of the people I know get the hell out of there soon. This is only going to keep happening until Pincus is ousted.
  30. Jamie Madigan Armchair Designer

    So there's kind of an ugly (yet interesting) debate/chortlefest going on about this news on Gamasutra's article. At such a developer-focused site I'm surprised to see so many people calling Zynga "exploitative" and evil. One asshat in particular not only takes the laid off employees to task for supporting Zynga, but extends that blame to their families. Yeah, that three year old should have known better, right?

    I guess the discussion really highlights that traditional (and probably indie) developers really don't like the social games market and what it has (supposedly) done to the larger gaming market.
  31. MatthewF Elitist Negative Nancy

    Man, that comment thread is ugly, and the Ramin "I predicted this on my blog years ago!" guy who started all the shit-flinging is a serious asshole.
  32. Dufresne Armchair Designer

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    I've found that the phrase "I predicted this years ago" is one of the best red flags for identifying assholes on the internet.
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  33. TheTrunkDr Hard Cider Gal

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    In the case of Zynga I'm not sure that's a fair takeaway. Zynga is well documented as a questionable company when it comes to how they handle/exploit employees.
  34. Dufresne Armchair Designer

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  35. Charles Despondent Fancybear

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  36. JoshV Keeper of the Elemental Materials


    Gamasutra's got this commentary crowd that often annoys the hell outta me. Weird analysts/experts who don't have any actual expertise, and tend to advertise themselves and their companies rather than actually give advice. Hipsters who will happily denigrate the mainstream industry they have never actually worked in. People with weird chips on their shoulders and odd grudges against all sorts of people and things. For the most part, it's a wasteland. I do wonder if it's moderated at all, and if that might be part of the issue.
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  37. Dufresne Armchair Designer

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    "As wary employees drew near, they were greeted by the familiar face of the office HR woman. She stood beside a blonde Zynga executive from California who looked like he'd been ripped off the cover of Men's Health."

    Ten bucks says the unnamed executive was Todd Arnold.
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  38. idris_z I Pretty Much Live Here

    As I pointed out in my paper back from 2006, "Comment Moderating is a necessary evil", you can find it under my profile, people who comments are Douchebag and deserve to be treated like one.

    /joke
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